To Reiza: What physics do you actually want?

If it is me you are adressing then I have lots of time EXACTLY EXPLAINED why I dont want my hours working with custom setups "stolen" by embeciles who as laughable explanations does moan about how precious their time is.
Too precious to mess with setups themselves.

Conserning possible exploits in setups then I have not found any.
I guess as example slightly lower camber is quite RL realistic if you are ready to fight with a more unstable car.
The reason is probably that the extra grip in higher camber is payed by more friction/energy waste.
Higher tire pressure is only a slight advantage on certain cars(IMO) payed with more unstability.
And only useable up to a not unrealistic height.

ByTheWay: Maybe you should use some of your attention on the fact that some of the best setup creators in this forum has stopped to use and create custom setups in TT exactly because of this forced "stealing" of their work.
And they have openly explained this.
As long as this game keep this forced setup sharing it will never be a racing game used by more serious virtuel drivers. These will ofcourse use more serious racing sims which is respecting their personal work effort - and often also offer an easy VOLUNTARY setup sharing service

 

Meh, who cares about TT setups... they are unrealistic by nature.

I think this is gonna sit bad with some people and grant me many disagrees and dislikes, but "TT is for kids, long races are for men"

As someone who can only tinker with the basics of setup creation, I also think no one should be obliged to share their hard work. But again, TT setups are mostly irrelevant to me really.

 

Time trial is a bit of fun. Like all things that are fun, some people take it far too seriously.

 

I thought we did this for fun, did not realise some people are playing for sheep stations

 

Yeah you are completely right.
Nobody should ever take TT so laughable uber-serious that they invest a lot of time and effort to try to find exploit motives behind other drivers laptimes.
Laptimes exactly on such a waste of time like position yourself on TT LBs.
No grown up person will or should probably ever do that.

ByTheWay: The only thing opposing this is the repeating demands to be able to use others TT setups.
Because why demand something so meh meh and unrealistic?

 

I am really curious about these and I am sure others as well, is there any way to make these accessible in some form for players?

 

What would you do with that info? They maybe don't want to do that so modders don't easily get car data and make their own mod for a different sim

 

Those sorts of things are no secret for modders. Most devs find that info on the same places that modders to, specially for old cars.

 

My other question is what from the fid den info is useful? I understand certain things are, but maybe certain aren’t necessary

 

I agree... TT setups are often non-usable for real racing.
Also I agree that the majority of times hiding setups from the big shots is just a way to try and conceive the cheats/exploits they have discovered rather than anything else unless they are making a business about selling them which I highly doubt is happening currently in AMS2.
Experience in other sims should teach us something.

 

Well, with the current modding capabilities of AMS2, not much indeed i suppose.

 

Yes, in my personal experience, dialing out the exploits/cheats is a big part of the physics development, and you need to be on top of what the players are doing to do this. Or best alternative, have a lot of knowledge and data about how the physics engine works in all scenarios.

 

Oh keep a steady hand on the tinfoil hat here.
This laughable discussion becomes more and more bizare.
Now its about some completely unknown cheats/exploits only existsting in some rather inflamed brain part under the tinfoil.
Hehe and now we also have to hear about an even more laughable possibility of selling special exploit setups as a profitable businezz.
Holy moly

ByTheWay: And all this laughable conspiracy theory is only because some of the tinfoil drivers are unable to match my reasonably fast TT LB laptimes.
Come on

 

Just because I am interested in things like drag coefficients, rotational forces, downforce values, etc. for the GT1s specifically, as I am very interested in that class in general and I personally don't have access to that data.

If you have a place for me to look it up myself, I'd be very thankful, I couldn't find much for the GT1s by researching on my on.

 

Come on, spare us with your d*** measuring contest, nobody is interested in that.

 

Then its pretty bizare all the people who invent theories about the reasons they cannot match some of the top laptimes on TT LBs.
The last things they want to look is that the reason could be that they sucks

 

I think it is pretty bizare you just assume the reason for everything is that you have a better time than them on the TT leaderboards.

 

I never did a lot of research on those particular cars, but books are always your best friends, and there are some websites that have some interesting tidbits, like this:

Mulsanne's Corner: Race Car Aerodynamics Database

 

I already went through everything on Mulsanne's Corner, not too much for the GT1s that are in AMS2 sadly. Seems to be very hard to find anything for these specifically compared to most others cars from that era for some reason.
But thanks for the effort anyway, maybe Reiza can give out some information.

 

I would guess that getting the rights to feature a car in the game comes with a NDA which would prevent reiza from sharing this kind of data