To Reiza: What physics do you actually want?

I am not worried with "losing credibility", when i present facts, and people rather cover their eyes and hears.

 

Why is it a crime that PCars2 got something right?

Maybe you don't like to hear the truth, if that is the case.

 

Yes, i stand by all those claims. You want to move on, or are you still digesting it?...

 

For those interested this is how a cam and pawl looks and operates. Notice how he says and demonstrates how when there is no input of torque, the carrier spins freely:

 

@Richard Wilks can I just get reminded on what were the cars you preferred in PC2 over AMS2? I just want to try and give my on opinion on the matter.
Some people may believe they are “unrealistic”, but a good car is a good car.

 

The lotus 98T with Historic/vintage tires, as well as the 72 with those tires too (altough the 72 has a lot of drag for some reason).

The group C cars with the optional tires (i believe they are called comp).

 

I missed that option completely in other cars anyway, lol. Perhaps I should have kept it.

 

IAN, is that you?

 

Feel like this could be interesting for those who don’t know
I just discovered that the default FFB uses the front tyres and default+ uses the rear tyres. What I mean is that when I was using default+ with the Porsche GT3 I got a lot of oversteer feeling, but switching to default and it feel a lot more stable. Maybe a bit of the handling issues are due to using default+ and not default

 

IMO default is much better than default+. However this custom file that I put together from a few other custom files is my favorite so far.

 

What wheel do you use?

 

T300

 

Ok I just tried the PC2 98t with historical tires.
It’s a joke , it’s far too manageable, you can keep the throttle pinned and it doesn’t react at all in a straight line , just keeps going forward with lots of wheel spin that recovers with no fuss, yet at the same time you cant lean on the rear laterally at all without it sliding sideways in a gentle drift . Yet the front seems to have all the grip you could ever want .
the fact that the diff comes out of box with 10 preload kinda says it all too about PC2 .

 

So you say it has more wheelspin, but its more manageable, and that the front has good grip? And that if you lean on it sideways, the car will reactly gently instead of either have terminal understeer or throwing itself off the road instantly?

Sounds good to me! Exactly what i said myself.


EDIT: also, i swear people here are WAY too obsessed with diff settings...

 

Also, for those who have AMS1, i actually have a full historic 1986 mod with all the cars, if anybody fancy comparing to that.

 

Here, if you pay atention to the williams, you can see that the car even leaves skidmarks as it goes up the hill, without spinning or kicking sideways uncontrolably:

 

I’m sorry but this debate was interesting for a bit until i ignored the text and tried your shining example of what physics should be like, and it’s a complete waste of time this entire thread.

the PC2 version is far far too easy to drive.

So even though i do not work for rieza and do think that the diffs are a lot too locked in default setup, ( but it’s easily tuned out) .

The Answer to the title question of what physics do you want is ….
Not F&@#in yours ..

 

He maybe expects it to be a death machine. They realise it isn’t and think it is wrong. I haven’t driven the car, but you seem to know a lot about that era and that car so I believe you more

 

Why should it be "hard to drive"?... i concede that my cars in AMS1 are a bit more lively than the Pcars2 one, but the Pcars2 one at least makes sense in relation to how a 1986 F1 should drive, and you can drive it by feel. The AMS2 one punishes you for the minimum indescretion, while at the same time allowing you to save totally doomed situations with the hand of god... its also plagued with terminal understeer on corner entry, in a way that a real F1 car never would, unless the team would enjoy being slow on purppose.

 

it’s got more power than anyone in the world has ever needed and is the size of a bath tub , it is not going to be easy to drive.

Ive done loads of laps in the Ams2 version in the last week. and it’s very good and can be leaned on quite hard in high speed turns , and it doesn’t jump sideways it just lurches the chassis under the immense torque. the tires behave believable and can have controlled wheel spin that doesn’t make the car veer as long as you don’t bring the immense boost on to aggressively.