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VR Discussions, Questions & Feedback

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Heitor Facuri Cicoti, Apr 5, 2020.

  1. OlivierMDVY

    OlivierMDVY Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Has someone tested the foveat with open xr toolkit? It doesn’t work well for me, I have ugly stripes in the outer circle.
     
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  2. Bull Shark

    Bull Shark "Later has already begun." AMS2 Club Member

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    What kind of VR set do you use? I read that you best can use virtual desktop when having a 7900xtx in combination with a Quest 2 or 3.
    The quest 3 looks like a great VR set with the pancake lenses. So I probably will go that route.
     
  3. Lt.Dan_Taylor

    Lt.Dan_Taylor New Member

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    I can warmly recommend quest 3. However, I can only draw a comparison with psvr2. In direct comparison, the psvr2 is supposed to be the better vr glasses, but I can't confirm that in my opinion. I find the image of the quest 3 via pc significantly better than that of the psvr2. With the psvr2 it's like a grid in front of your eyes, and you have to constantly search for the sweet spot. Since I drove gt7 on the psvr2, I haven't driven on the screen and I won't buy a sim that doesn't offer vr. That's why I wanted pcvr, and since I've had it, I've only touched the psvr2 once. I also think it's really great that you can use them as stand alone glasses. There are really lots of fun things to do.
     
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  4. UrsineSaturn9

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    Yes, but I've got the inner ring at 80% and outer at 95% I think to not have those artefacts within my field of view. Horizontal scale at 165% also to have a more oval shaped ring
     
  5. Bull Shark

    Bull Shark "Later has already begun." AMS2 Club Member

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    Yeah I have the PSVR2 and GT7 as well and as you mentioned, the sweet spot is very narrow.
    I do like the PSVR2 and GT7 but the biggest drawback for me is the bad AI. I don't race online as I often do not have the time for online races. So I'm depend of a good AI. AMS2 has a very good AI and it is getting better and better.
    PCARS 2 and VR was great but AMS2 and VR is golden.
    I tried PSVR2, love it but I will return it and stick to the first plan. Save some money for a decent PC.
    Now I only have to make a discission whether I pick an Radeon 7900XTX or not. This due the fact that I've read it works not flawess with VR.
     
  6. Personic

    Personic New Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Been using a 7900xtx for over a year. Very stable card that lets me max out my quest 2 with AMS2 at medium AA and otherwise maxed out settings. Maintains 90fps in most use cases sometimes dipping to 60-70 fps at the start of a night race. This is with a (soon to be upgraded) very weak cpu. Hope this helps.
     
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  7. OlivierMDVY

    OlivierMDVY Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    In my opinion, instead of having a 'Max Visible Cars' option, it could be better to have a 'Max Cars with light on'. A kind of option to switch off the lights of the cars behind you. Just an idea...
     
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  8. Bull Shark

    Bull Shark "Later has already begun." AMS2 Club Member

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    That sounds great. Thanks for the info.
     
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    Dolph Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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  10. BistoKid

    BistoKid Active Member

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    Sorry for my naivety here but how do I get this to work? I downloaded the DLL linked in your post and put it in AMS2 directory. I already have OpenXR but previously used it through Virtual Desktop. I have it set to Oculus and start AMS2 from Steam. However, when I am in game, I cannot bring up the menu with Ctrl F2 or F12. I tried running Legacy [think that is what it was called] but still nothing. Looking at the OpenXR log, it stated that it was running through Virtual Desktop, I assume this is incorrect but how can I change it? I am so confused and as only running a 3070, need to optimise for VR as much as I can.
    Appreciate any guidance.
     
  11. Lt.Dan_Taylor

    Lt.Dan_Taylor New Member

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    You need the openxr toolkit and opencomposite

    Quickstart
     
  12. MickT

    MickT Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Check the timestamps of the log file. Sounds like it might just be from the last time you ran with VDXR. Before looking for OXRTK menus or log files though - check that OC is actually running. It has its own log file in %localappdata%\OpenComposite\logs
     
  13. BistoKid

    BistoKid Active Member

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    Yes, I have both.
     
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    Thank you, I will check that tomorrow
     
  15. DayrFile

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    Hi Olivier,

    I observe the same stripes as you, I found that one needs to hit certain resolutions. Please see my post on this below.
    I'm using ffr extensively, since it is a setting I can set on the fly (without reboot). So when fps go down, I can countercompensate by more aggressive ring settings in ffr.

    Greetings

     
  16. UrsineSaturn9

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    I'll have to test that. So you are using FSR from OpenXR Toolkit so not using CAS? If so do you change sharpening in the ini?

    I just made the inner ring very large (80%) to get those artefacts out of my view, but will try setting inner and middle identical.

    Hopefully can find the "magic" numbers for my headset
     
  17. DayrFile

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    Yes, that's correct I'm using FSR. FSR should include a cas algorithm (maybe even identical).
    I myself, although knowing what FSR was doing, treated it for years like an anti-aliasing method, which is wrong and a complete waste of it's potential. I always set up a headset resolution and then added like 95% FSR on it, which improved slightly the fps. But that is not how it is meant to be used. It is a very efficient upscaler. That means the headset resolution needs to be as high as it still makes sense (you see I use ~3200 for my G2, which seems to be for the G2 the meaningful limit) and the FSR value as low as needed for good performance. The in game setting needs to have good anti-aliasing, like the MSAA 2x (the expensive one). Only then the CAS will increase sharpness, with the high headset resolution and will not increase the shimmering much. I use values around 30%.

    In short: FSR will work best for low values <0.7 combined with headsets which offer very high resolution. (AMD even removed from a lot of presets the 0.95, since it doesn't make any sense, it even adds a few ms for processing).

    Greetings
     
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  18. Djangopass

    Djangopass Formula Vintage cars

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    Hi, I have just got a Quest 3, after a G2 that was brilliant but really fragile, and I´m guessing how and if I could use the Openxr as well.
     
  19. MickT

    MickT Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    As mentioned a bit further up in this thread, you need to use this mod to stop AMS2 always launching in Oculus mode. GitHub - rodolZ80/bypass-oculus-detector: Windows Library that simulates not having the Oculus service running and having the VR Headset disconnected.
    With that DLL added, you should be able to use OpenComposite and OpenXR Toolkit like you did with the G2. Note, however, there's no free bump in performance just from avoiding SteamVR, as you were already avoiding it by going direct to Oculus. You can, however, use the toolkit for other benefits like FFR or upscaling.
     
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  20. Djangopass

    Djangopass Formula Vintage cars

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    Thanks. I have really tried to search before to write but I didn´t manage. Anyhow let´s what I can get out from Openxr or if it is better to let Oculus do the job.
     

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