VR Discussions, Questions & Feedback

Well technically you could just bend forwards, press recenter, and go back to normal position. I agree this is better scaled in Gt7. Funny enough in Gt7 for some cars I have to do the same trick to put the camera in proper position as ita often fixed too close to the wheel. But yeah make sure to lower the desktop resolution as well.

 

so is there a simple way to 'automate' changing the screen res? I have a 4K monitor set at 4k res and I'm looking at getting my PICO 4 working, is there a quick and simple way to just change the resolution for when playing AMS2 and that will automatically restore the 4k after playing AMS2?

 

Simply set AMS2 to "windowed mode" and select the resolution you want to fit the menu in VR.

 

I totally agree with you. In VR you have to turn your head from left to right and back all the time. Changing the resolution may be a workaround, not a solution though. There is a reason for me to run the game in 2560x1440: If I don´t run it in native monitor resolution. the hud doesn´t fit to the captured area of my streams anymore. So I would appreciate if Reiza took an overhaul of the menu into consideration.

 

These bitrate settings effect the image compression. Try taking the Formula Junior around Azure circuit during the day with various Bitrates and you'll notice the difference in the road texture. It can become quite compressed (mushy) the lower the bitrate. Best image is with Link Cable @ 900+ Mbs. I also use VD and using AV1@200 the road texture in this scenario it looks a bit crap tbh, same with HVEC 10bit @ 200. H264+ @ 500Mbs looks best in this scenario in VD but still nowhere near as good as link cable @ 900+ and you need near perfect wireless setup to run 500Mbit without stutter.

This is because in the F-Junior you are very low to the road so the road surface becomes more noticeable when its compressed. If you take a GT3 around Azure with same bit rate tests, its less (but still) noticeable.

A router with 2400mbs (which is what mine is) is overkill in terms of bit rate because the port that my PC connects to on the router is only 1Gbs anyway despite my PC port being 2.5Gbs. You'd think they'd put 2.5Gbs ports on the router at least. (TP-Link AXE5400). The main advantage with this router is the 6ghz/160Mhz.

Only reason I use VD for AMS2 is because I just can't get a decent power/charging solution that actually works reliably using link cable whereas I can plug direct into power when using wireless.

I too will probably look at getting a Pimax Crystal Light at some stage because battery power charging along with image compression sucks and I never play run around the room VR anyway.

But don't get me wrong, I am still loving my Quest 3 after upgrading from a HTC Vive Pro OG.

 

Thank you for the information. Did you also try H265 (should have better quality than H264?)?

 

Must admit, never tried H265 but its yet another higher compression algorithm so I stick with H264 to reduce compression.

EDIT: Just to add more info, the different codecs just vary in their efficiency to compress the image. ie H264 is not as efficient at compressing the image as AV1 or HVEC or H265 so at the same bit rate, H264 may not look as good... BUT, these other codecs require more in terms of compute power so they use more compute resources to both Encode (at PC end) and decode (at headset end). With the Quest 3, the decode end is handled by the snapdragon chip and it has its limits which is why the decode limit for things like AV1 and HVEC in Virtual desktop is 200Mb. Well, 200Mb AV1 might look better than 200Mbit H264, but it certainly is inferior to 500Mbit H264 and certainly a lot worse than 900+Mbit H264. Obviously 200Mbit AV1 is less data to be pumped through to the headset so less bandwidth is needed which helps with wireless.

Its like anything with VR..everything is a set of compromises and you have to pick the best set for your circumstances

 

Hi, i have a Q3 and a old crappy 3rd party link cable i used for my q2.
When i got the Q3 i was like " oh crap, its not charging anymore when in use or plugged into PC"

I bought a USB hub that also plugs into the wall for power. I also have to disable the USB power saving feature in windows.

I can now take my headset off and don't have to turn it off or plug it into the wall for it to power back up.

Hope it will help.

 

What’s best for ams2 I have the rift s currently but want to upgrade. Is pico 4 better than quest 3? Is there better available?

thanks in advance

 

I am using the Quest 3 via Virtual Desktop, and having a blast. Running 320 bitrate which makes everything more than clear enough with very minor compression artifacts on the asphalt when it is a specific shade of dark grey, and keeping the latency at minimum where you do not even notice it.

This website that compares VR headsets could also help you with choosing.
Meta Quest 3 vs Pico 4 (Comparison) - VRcompare

 

I'd be going with Pimax Crystal Light, or PSVR2 and the PC adapter before any wireless headset.
The PSVR2 is great in AMS2, it looks a little low res vs something like a Quest 3 but makes up for it in screen brightness, colours and contrast etc. Sunrises look beautiful and blinding bright in the PSVR2.

I didn't like the Pico4 for Sim racing. Too many video artifacts, latency issues, stutters etc
The Quest 3 wasn't too bad, was better than the Pico4 but I sold it quite quickly as its strengths are in standalone and mixed reality rather than PCVR sim racing.

 

I have both P4 and Q3 would definitely choose the Q3 over the Pico. It's a nicer piece of hardware with better software. I prefer the image and usability that Virtual Desktop provides, but high bitrate 700mbs+ using the link cable is really good to, definitely better performance there.

On the more budget friendly side of things and if just for simracing/wired VR, the pico neo 3 link would be a good shout if you could find one. But I think in terms of new stock it's discontinued?

And going up in price bracket the Crystal Light is probably the most interesting option caveat being it's a new piece of hardware which personally I prefer to avoid until the kinks have been ironed a little.

 

The Pimax Crystal (light) is amazing for AMS2. Especially with local dimming. But you need a GPU that can handle it, minimum 4070TI I would say but preferable is a 4090.

 

I was considering the crystal light but at $1670 AUD for that vs $645 AUD for PSVR2 + adapter, the choice was made a bit easier. Just ordered the psvr2

 

Actually, this is turning out to be a pretty good solution for power whilst playing with Link Cable. I used a 45W plug into a USB Hub (bought one just for this) and whilst the headset still complains that its getting reduced power, I only used 5% battery when playing flat out for 30 minutes.

Pretty happy with that. Headset chews up 1% / minute otherwise so its a vast improvement. It's a hungry beast. And as you say, take headset off (even still connected via Oculus Link) and it starts charging up.

Yeah, we are getting screwed on Pimax Crystal Light pricing here in AUS (As per usual).

 

Thanks for all responses to my initial question

Today I have purchased the meta quest 3 with the official link cable. My gaming laptop is as follows….MSI laptop…..13th generation intel i9-13950…..16GB ram…..2.2Ghz…..NVIDIA RTX 4080.

I heard people mention bit rates etc etc but I am just looking for a good set up for meta quest 3 with my specs

If anyone can assist it is much appreciated

thanks in advance

 

You probably have opencomposite setup already? Only other thing you'll need is the quest link software, not sure if it's the same software the rift uses. You'll make some adjustments using the Oculus Debug Tool, which lives in one of the install folders and that's basically it.

If you have questions when it arrives, just shout. Also congrats. It's a really nice upgrade.

 

Thanks.

I have never used opencomposite before (don’t know what it is and I am not very good with techy stuff). When I used to use the rift s I just plugged it in and clicked on devices. I assume the quest 3 will be the same.
I was more referring to bitrates as I see some people say it makes a difference. I’ll see how it goes when I try it later

thanks again

 

I get better performance in Oculus mode than open composite with a link cable. This game supports it. Try that first

 

Yeah, they'll be a little bit of tinkering you'll want to do to get the most out of it. Adjusting the bitrate is unavoidable. But it's pretty painless. As I said if you need a hand getting setup just shout. I'll go through it with you here or on discord, whatever.