What do you think is the most significant reason AMS2 userbase is so small?

From a friend who does not like AMS2...The car selection is named oddly from a user standpoint, so was not sure where the cars were he wanted to drive. tracks are in some cases not called the common name for the track, and really need Ferraris and Lambos. Did not care at all for all the South American content. So seems like a reboot of the game and pay some license fees would make the game more popular

 

I love the South American content. In fact, your friend's complaints have given me an idea. Pan Am. I'm going to use the Custom Series function to brew up some Pan American series, ranging from Canada down to Argentina. Reiza should give us more Western Hemisphere tracks for Pan Am racing.

 

Alternatively, there's battle of the southern hemisphere, between Australia, South Africa, and South America, excluding Ibarra. Which would like more tracks for that as well.

 

"A friend"

 

Also a good idea! I'll have to create a few of those, too.

 

Yes, I love AMS2 which is why I am on this forum waiting for the Americas update

 

Sounds fun to watch. With Sim racings popularity in Europe and growing in the US, the bulk of the racers will be racing in sims that hold all that content. You have to have all the Ferrari and the other European cars to drive. Thats more important that having tracks "all" the tracks on a given racing circuit. AMS2 has a lot of the major European circuits and an eclectic selection of US tracks.

 

"What do you think is the most significant reason AMS2 userbase is so small?"
Easy, cos no grid girls....

 

Doubt the licensing fee Ferrari is going to ask to have their cars in this game is worth it. I'm fine with the car list in the game. If anything I would like to see more mid range production cars and some sort of ND Cup Miata in AMS2 for better wheel to wheel racing. Oh and improved multiplayer options and quality.

 

Certainly didn't do much of anything to RaceRoom:

 

Licenses per se are not going to change the destiny of a sim that is lacking deeply in other departments. They are rather the cherry on the cake that will boost a solid basement.

 

Ferrari would fit in so well in this game! Maybe a little later though, we gotta leave Reiza time to introduce vintage sports prototypes to go with the upcoming 70's tracks.

PC2 had the 512 but the 312 series is one of my favorites. Though I doubt it will bring in any sizeable increase it might keep people playing offline which is good as well.

Can't wait to give 1.4 a go this weekend! I'm sure this will give us another long term boost in player count.

Could this be the update that puts AMS2 ahead of RF2 and Raceroom?

 

Qualitywise, I believe that the 1.3 already did it. In popularity AMS2 could beat Raceroom with tons of improvements (that I don't believe that will be there until 2023). And for rFactor fans, nothing will ever beat the games in the franchise just because ISI have their own interpretation about simulation and fans just bough that as "the way a sim should be". If you put a rF2 fan inside a real car, he will tell you that the real life tyres are "too arcadish".

 

for a week or two can be close or bit ahead. history says so...

 

The gains stayed from 1.3 though, so here's hoping 1.4 will result in a similar (or larger) permanent boost.

 

I think that the game is improved in 1.4 and Reiza making a hard work but too many contents = too many bugs or issues.
After two years and half of development I'm not happy of this game.
In my opinion potentially the best racing game in the world but in reality not yet.

 

If it would be perfect after half of developement (as you say), the second half would be useles.

 

Coming back to this after the 1.4 release and it looks like the numbers definitely increased but not permanently...yet. I think we are a patch away, so hopefully in the next week or two we'll get 1.4.2.0 that will fix the last few cars and hopefully include some quality of life improvements.

The good news is that people are enjoying what is available in 1.4.1.3 and see the potential for the title with just a little more work. Not sure if anyone seen the stream of a lobby with GPLaps, some devs and others but they were able to have some good races and hopefully identified some easy fixes that we'll see soon.

Doesn't help anyone on the US West coast though lol, numbers are still really low. I haven't tried downloading the SteamDB database but I'd like to see the minimum player count over time, as sadly the minimum is usually around 10pm PST for all sims. So when we talk numbers I don't compare AMS2 vs ACC at the peaks but at the minimum which is actually a lot closer (160 vs 600 compared to 700 vs 4000).

How do we grow the US player base? Racin' USA seems to be mostly Europeans enjoying US racing lol.

 

AMS2 still under development
When the lesser quality cars (that I think give ams2 a bad name) are updated so there more consistently in quality & other issues with physics are sorted then I really think ams2 will become the main go to sim for the masses
Online leagues/choice will surely become good as a result

Great physics, ffb & quality consistency is where the key is

surprised there’s so many cars not surprised (due to the high qty) that a lot of them are no good

 

It is a really enjoyable game as it stands, but there are some things that still need sorting and adding if the following order:
1. Fix bugs to multiplayer servers - there are still too many server crashes
2. Introduce a robust ranking and safety system with clear progression, and seasons for classes - similar to iRacing or LFM
3. A sense of progression of skills such as in ACC.
4. A career mode with things to aim for such as titles
5. Animations for podiums/titles
6. Polish existing content ahead of introducing new content
7. When existing content polished then prioritise a few new big car brands, eg Ferrari
8. Add classic tracks - Indy, Le Mans, 1960s Spa and Monza
9. Modern Indycars and more Indy tracks
10. Ability to do endurance events with driver swaps.