What do you think is the most significant reason AMS2 userbase is so small?

Op
What do you think is the most significant reason AMS2 userbase is so small?

They have not tried it lately and seen the light.
+ Update to come will shed more light to be seen.

 

Can we have some spoilers please?

 

I don't buy this idea.

I believe new people try the game all the time, but AMS2 doesn't have the hook factor as I explained before. Neither SP nor MP are in a good state, which means very few people want to invest time in the game.

After all, in a racing game people usually want to race, be it offline or online.

If we look at the competition, at least they provide a good MP, so people can just ignore their poor AI. With AMS2 it is not possible, as MP is far too unreliable, and AI is far too inconsistent.

Yes, AMS2 AI is better than the rest (maybe not iRacing's? idk, never tried too much), but that doesn't mean it is a marvel as some seem to so strongly defend throughout this forum.

Again, it is not my opinion, but a fact: just take a sneak peek at the AI feedback thread.

 

I’m no iracing fan boy but their Ai is much better. You can also adjust each Ai individually. He we had a # not it’s low med high, and isn’t as good as it was. I run from 105 to 110 and I’ve tried low high and med and all seem to be driving with a patch over my eye and a Coke bottle thickness on the other. Someone posted a voice the Ai is one of the better ones, what are you comparing too, simcade “games”

 

No problem I did not expect you to.

Correct. If this was not possible in the current state then Ams2 would have zero players. Clearly not the case.

' I don't by this' either.

Both: I defend as you put it, when warranted and also Critic in the Ai thread, to which I could easily add to from last night's test with ai crashing at T1 Spa Historic 1970. However You know as well as I do that work is continuous in both Ai and Mp and strides have been made forward. Though not yet to the highest achievable standard, or high enough for some.
Players are coming back #1, & players are purchasing and enjoying, as for Op and my post. I stand by my comments, also borne out.
Personally I believe the balance of good vs bad has shifted.
There are also many other reason players may not play this or any other sim online or off.
Glass half full or half empty.

 

ACC have Copa Truck? Aus V8? F1 cars? Indy cars? Group C? Tourism (retro and current)? Classic GT? GT5? GTE? Kart? Etc? Yeah... "goooooddd" gamie, son

 

ACC is a one horse, well 2 horse show. GT3 will be burnt out soon. They need a lot more content

 

Probably those are out of Reiza's reach, so nothing that can be done... If we unravel that thread of thought we will start discussing the Theory of Consumer's Preference, which I only have a very thin surface level knowledge about.

Slow but steady progress is being made for sure, but it hasn't reached a level where the game (I repeat myself here) can hook up more users to its base.

I think it is simple as that.

 

Unless they have brought the MP out of the dark ages and into 2022 than the light switch will remain off for the majority...

The other possibility that will make people who don't like AMS2 currently care about this update is a career mode with all the cars and tracks of a popular series like WEC...

Otherwise the torch has no batteries and a very small minority will care to find batteries...

 

why people that dont race MP care about popularity?

 

Yes, just like real life, the BOP differs from track to track. Seriously, research a little before shooting down what someone else says.
And I said already, I play AMS2 as well. It does give variety of other cars and tracks. But the ACC hate on here is just blinkered fanboyism.
Give credit where its due. ACC nails what it does quite well. Each car running its own aero map, BOP, per track and per season. And the ffb is very informative, AMS2 is very informative too BTW.

 

The more people are buying AMS2 the more resources for REIZA to develope the game furter and further...

 

No ACC doesn't have these. I don't know why your being toxic here.
I could ask you does AMS2 have 4 seasons of sro?
GT4
British GT?
Ferrari Challenge?
Super Trofeo?
etc etc.

If you can't acknowledge the good points of any given sim, how can you give unbiased feedback?

I play all racing sims, and they all have their pros and cons....all of them.

 

Fully agree, they are doing a fantastic job, however I think RF2 going the LFM route will hit sales. Although, RF2 is very hit and miss with its content. Some is good, some is bad, and the FFB needs a lot of dialling in per car in my experience.

 

Because we want for Reiza to don't bankrupt, for AMS2 to get improved for all over the years and for AMS3 to be developed in the best way that Reiza want to.

You are overreacting to a joke about a videogame and I don't need to acknowledge shhht because it wasn't the point of my post. You are just being bhurt because I pointed something that I took as negative about a game that you like AND I DID IT JUST TO ILLUSTRATE A POINT that is purely about AMS2 (we are posting in a AMS2 forum, not an ACC, if you didn't realized it).

PS: When you took a discussion like this soo dmn personal, it's you that is toxic... because we were just talking about simulators, and them here comes you pointing fingers to another user just because of my opinion about a ffkkng game.

 

renato himself says that reiza doing very well financialy (and i believe him) and small player base all those years didn't stop the development and the growth of AMS2.

do you really think that low popularity may hurt the future of AMS2 single player? cause renato said otherwise.

 

Seriously I do my research and I can tell you that what they change from track to track has nothing to do with BOP which is normally adjusted via power, tank size and ballast. This is not what changes from track to track in ACC.
There is anyway no need to hate ACC (which as I said has a great deal of positive sides) to see that their physics is canned and at times even go against real physics of vehicles if someone knows about it (from tires, to TC/ABS and other things). On the other side ACC being 1:1 with real world physics is almost a religion for the army of ACC fanboys that can never be questioned even when the fakes are pretty blatant.

 

Every time a contractor or a client ask me about how I am (no matter in what sense) the answer is always "very fine, sir".

I really believe that FOR NOW Reiza is doing fine, but things change unconceivable fast and way larger gamming companies gone broke in a blink of an eye... a sad large list, to be less unprecise and without counting studios as Slight Mad, that were murdered.

 

Exactly ^^^

 

I have shelved AMS2 by now in the same category as BeamNG. One of that projects that will never ever be really done and complete.