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Worst cars (in terms of handling: not physics) in AMS2. Devs should look at them

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Haris1977, Apr 10, 2020.

  1. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    Combine the 900 with reasonable (as recommended) LFB and Gain settings. And if that doesn't work, you must have another issue, because there are lots of people with Logitech wheels reporting excellent results (as good as can be expected).
     
  2. F1Aussie

    F1Aussie Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I actually reckon the super V8 feels great and gives good feedback to me
     
  3. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    And how many cars feel light or lifeless by comparison?

    Please provide your hardware and settings with reply :)
     
  4. Haris1977

    Haris1977 Active Member

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    Would love to hear from people who have similar wheel (g27 or g29 i suppose) cause my problem may be related to a “conflict”
    between this wheel(s) and these specific cars.
     
  5. Avoletta1977

    Avoletta1977 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Everything on default and my G27 works perfectly in game with nice ffb.
    ARC is unnaturally responsive at low steering angle but it's up to tire/suspensions modeling, not HW setup.
     
  6. Haris1977

    Haris1977 Active Member

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    @Avoletta1977 thanks for the reply.

    One question: i ve already setup my wheel with a “new”profile of 900 dor and set my sensitivity to stock value (50). Started a race (v8’s) but my wheel “locked” in ~220 dor making the car undriveable! Is this the case with the specific car?
     
  7. F1Aussie

    F1Aussie Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hardware is in my sig now. I haven't raced with the super V8 since the update and I am still on the old v346 fanatec driver and firmware, not sure how this compares to you?
     
  8. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    Have you tried replacing your Logitech-Profiler (Config-file) with a new one? If it's corrupted, you'll experience very inconsistent results. There have been similar issues reported with other wheels, even an AccuForce.

    As I said in a previous post, the Logitech-profile issue has been around since the early days. I don't know how common it is now but, it may go undetected / unreported in many cases.
     
  9. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    I find the ARC C default steering lock a bit too tight (snappy). Just reduce it (increase the number) in the set-up screen and it will feel much nicer (and FFB will be less compressed on an old Logi G). If I recall I moved it to 24.
     
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  10. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    You have a direct drive wheel and I do not. Yours is trickier to set-up and can be messed-up by fiddling with way more control panel settings. You should do some reading in the threads where the DD owners are discussing best ways to set-up. Just do not believe the myth that LFB has to be at zero. It does/should not.
     
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  11. F1Aussie

    F1Aussie Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks for the heads up, I have not really played around with the settings in game much, just dropped the gain to 50. I do like the feel of having to fight the cars at times to really hustle them, I have not noticed it to this extent in other sims.
     
  12. Haris1977

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    Can you elaborate on this? How would i do that?
     
  13. Haris1977

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    PS1 I did some "extended" test: went on gameplay=>display=> and enabled the on screen wheel in order to check if there is smth wrong with the wheel movement.

    First i tested the v8: I was on 1:1 so everything was ok up to this point (1:1 means that if i move my wheel 90 degrees, the same happens to the virtual wheel). But, what i figured out is that the v8's virtual wheel "locked" in 220 - 230 dor !! So that exactly is the problem.

    Shouldn't that be on (at least 540?) I recon this is the root of my problem (in terms of twitchyness). Can you please check what is yours v8 virtual (in game) wheel rotation?

    * sc Brazil's virtual wheel lock = ~ 540 degrees
     
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    The more the value the more the snappiness. Even on 14 it is snappy for me
     
  15. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    It's been years but, IIRC, you re-install the Logitech software however, you need to delete the configuration file (may be corrupted) before doing so or uninstall the software, clean the registry, reboot and re-install.

    A fellow sim-racer advised me to not use the "Allow games to over-ride settings" as it was suggested that could be related to the profile corruption issue. If you are at your witsend, I'd give it a try.

    It's totally possible that issue was since solved by Logitech but, if not, it might be relevant in your case. The issues you are having now remind me of the ones I experienced back then. I followed his advice and never had those issues again. But even today, we see stranger things happen with game-controller profiles and hardware firmware / software from time to time.
     
  16. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    Lowering the number in car-setup steering-lock will normally reduce "snappy" steering.
    If it doesn't in your case, there's something else strange going on.
     
  17. Haris1977

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    We do say the same thing mate. I know that. But even on 14 it is too snappy (i ve heard others saying the same thing in other forums too for the camaro). 14 is the lowest setting..

    Btw guys can you please check your virtual steering wheel in game DOR for the v8 car?
     
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  18. TekNeil

    TekNeil Take me back to the 2.4l, twin 50 weber days...

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    You guys aren't confusing the 'Steering ratio' (Ratio of the steering rack) are you? Because a lower number there will mean less turning of the wheel for 'x' output from the rack.
     
  19. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    I was taking about "STEERING LOCK" in the car's set-up screen. No matter what you set this to, the wheel on the screen should remain synchronized to your actual wheel (because that is controlled through wheel configuration). Lower numbers mean less pivoting of the car's wheels. Higher numbers mean more, or "sharper" steering.

    I misspoke earlier about "lowering it to 24." Default is 20 and I remembered moving it 4 (to 16). If the car is still snappy when you have it set to 14, then something is wrong elsewhere.
     
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  20. Avoletta1977

    Avoletta1977 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Default is 14 and even at 14 the car is clearly too snappy at low steering angles.
     
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