Automobilista 2 V1.0.6.0 RELEASED - Now updated to V1.0.6.2

I just tried the Copa Uno because I was curious. Try it. It is in my opinion what the Uno's should feel like. It has a bit more understeer than the prior versions (CC or CU), but I bet a racier set-up can bring that back for those of us who prefer it

 

Totally disagree.

I hadn't time to test more than a few series yesterday, and one of them happened to be the Copa Classics that are clearly in a mid-WIP state. I can imagine when time came to push out the update, they were a victim of being worked on at the moment and it was easier to leave them and fix in a patch than put them back to where they were.

But it is precisely because Reiza is so good at keeping all the older and less prominent content up-to-date that this small mess occurred in the first place. If it was ISI/S397, we could be waiting 7+ years for the simplest of updates to historic open-wheelers, or waiting forever for SMS to go in and apply some consistency to the cars in PC or PC 2...

Just to prove it to myself I took the time to test a bunch of series, in alphabetical order to suit my OCD, and here are the results (you might notice a pattern):

• ARC Camaro - handling and FFB improved and better than ever
• (Porsche) Carrera Cup 3.8 - handling and FFB improved and better than ever
• (Porsche) Carrera Cup 4.0 - handling and FFB improved and better than ever
  
• Caterham 620R - handling and FFB improved and better than ever
• Caterham Academy - handling and FFB improved and better than ever
• Caterham Superlight - handling and FFB improved and better than ever
• Caterham Supersport - handling and FFB improved and better than ever
• Copa Fusca - handling and FFB improved and better than ever
• Copa Trucks - handling and FFB improved and better than ever
• Copa Montana - mild excess pendulum effect in FFB; handling of car good
• Copa Uno - handling and FFB improved and better than ever
• F301 - handling and FFB improved and better than ever
• F309 - handling and FFB improved and better than ever
• F-Classic G1M1 - handling and FFB improved and better than ever
• F Trainer - handling and FFB improved and better than ever
• F Trainer Advanced - handling and FFB improved and better than ever
• GInetta G55 - handling and FFB improved and FFB may be perfectly balanced in terms of no pendulum effect, but coming as close as possible to maximizing feedback
• Ginetta G58 - handling is great; car is firm, so will be rough on older or lower-grade tracks (where it doesn't run in real life); FFB is borderline on approaching excess pendulum effect (please adjust so it is closer to AJR)
• AJR Chevy - handling and FFB improved and better than ever
• Mitsubishi Lancer R - handling improved and better than ever, but FFB is borderline excess pendulum effect
• Mitsubishi Lancer RS - handling improved and better than ever, but FFB has excess pendulum effect
• EDIT - ADD:
• Opala '79 - too much grip; mild excess pendulum effect
• Opala '86 - too much grip; significant excess pendulum effect
• Old Stock - too much grip; mild excess pendulum effect

I gave-up after that many because I proved my point. The vast majority of cars are fantastic and have never felt better. It's all WIP, so thanks Reiza for the continuous improvement philosophy. Based on this and the results above, I forgive you for letting unfinished Copa Classics slip into an official update. I will also thank you in advance for fixing them in the very next update--because unlike every other sim dev out there, I can almost be 100% sure this will happen.

 

Are you using Custom ffb because with Default ffb I have no ffb with these cars? My documents files deleted, integrity check of the game done.
Caterham 620R, Academy and Superlight
Porsche 911GT3 Cup both cars
F3 both cars
Formula Reiza
Formula trainer and Formula trainer advanced
Formula Ultimate
Mclaren 720GT3
Porsche 911 GT3
Porsche Cayman GT4
Kart125cc
KartGX390
Kart rental
Kart125CC Shifter
P1: AJR Chevy V8, AJR Honda, AJR Judd
P4 : MCRS2000
Superkart
Mini CS

 

I am using Default FFB. I have very good to excellent FFB with all cars. The absolute only issue with FFB I have is the one I described above with a small selection of vehicles. It is unpleasant, but certainly not undriveable and only affects heavy loading in corners.

I have never heard of anyone having a lack of FFB on only certain vehicles, but having it on others, even if they are using a custom FFB file. It either works or it doesn't work...usually. You must have some serious other issue...hopefully someone here will have some suggestions to you.

 

What does this mean?
Steering lock is stopped / noticeable by FFB?
At least with Karts it doesn't work with my Thrustmaster T150

 

Was Copa Classic the class with sticky tires? As opposed to the other slidey vintage classes. I remember comparing the different vintage classes that share cars between them and CC was very different to the others. I'm not saying they should tip over, but I'm glad if they are true to the spec differences and that there are two very different specced Unos to choose from.

I'm not even ignoring AMS2, but fully immersed in 2077. Meanwhile AMS2 will get updates and new content. Now that's convenient.

You do realise the irony of course? According to hive mind, CP2077 is a buggy mess that hasn't been tested at all and has nothing going for it. It's unbelievable how people manage to ruin everything with negativity time and time again.

 

It means that the steering range of the cars (not our wheels) was adjusted. The only issue I noticed (and it may have already been the case) is the Ginetta G58 (P1) can't turn sharp enough to get out of small pit lanes (e.g., Oulton). This may be realistic, however impractical for the game to have to do a two- or three-point turn to get going in P and Q sessions.

 

Hoped it would be a stop on my wheel eventual, depending on the cars' steering range.
But I can still turn my wheel about 1050° without any force change of the FFB although the cars steering range is only 900°, 400° or 180° as with the karts .
Don't know why it does not work with my wheel. With AMS1 it worked well....

 

Did you set your steering wheel software with angle range in auto mode?

 

Don't know, have to check, thanks for advice.

 

Which wheel do you have? Bumpstops according to DoR are there on my Simucube 2.

 

Check cause if you don't have it in auto since different cars have different max steering angle your driving will be messed up

 

the steering of my real and simulated wheel is synchronous, it fits wether the car like karts has 180° or the trucks with a much higher steering lock. That's not the problem. But I can turn the thrustmaster T150 completely to the end without any change of force-feedback although the simulated wheel stops when its range is at the end.

 

I am not sure how your wheel is meant to react but when I go beyond the max range in my wheel it becomes much stiffer, but mine is a DD. Especially if you have a belt driven already cranked up to the max I'm not sure what your expectations could be in terms of added resistance to turn... Maybe someone with the same hardware can add some more specific experience

 

What I want to have is working like in AMS1. I did not change anything in controller control panel since AMS2. It is the same configuration as before.
So, karts have a steering lock of 180°. The animated steering wheel rotates from -90° to +90°.
If I steer with my Thrustmaster T150 wheel to -90°, then the animated wheel is on -90°. If I turn my wheel to +90° then the animated wheel is also at +90°. And if I turn to 0°, the animated is also at 0°.
BUT: without any change of force or any stop I can turn my wheel further, to -100°/+100°, to -180°/+180°, to -500°/+500°, but the animated / simulated steering keeps at -90°/+90° (what is right).
The issue is, why can I turn MY wheel further without any stop?
In AMS1 when reaching the cars steering end, then MY wheel was also stopped in rotating with maximum force of FFB. It automatically was fitted to the current car. Means, with another car which has a steering range of -220°/+220° then MY wheel allowed also a steering of -220°/+220° and then was stopped by maximum force.

 

With non-TC cars, this would hurt realism. Since the cars have TC, it doesn't really matter much.

I've found that they react very similarly (on TC) to the way the real F1 cars did when I watched onboards in the early '00s. They even have the little wiggle that the cars would sometimes get, because it was a rudimentary form of TC that worked by making the engine misfire. That's what that gurgling sound is.

Compare this to the V10 in AMS1, which would lose control easily on maximum TC.

The most unrealistic thing about their tires now is the fact that they can be locked up all the time without significant damage.