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Automobilista 2 V1.2.2.0 RELEASED!

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - News & Announcements' started by Renato Simioni, Jul 31, 2021.

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  1. McClutch

    McClutch Well-Known Member

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    I am with you on this, the slow speed behaviour is odd, the rear is going out much to often for no good reason at reasonable slow speeds <80km/h, also understeer is ridicoulously high at speed <80km/h particulary for a cars with -0.2" toe out.
     
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  2. 2ndLastJedi

    2ndLastJedi Free speech matters AMS2 Club Member

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    I'm not sure I feel this through my wheel.
    What's your time now ?
     
  3. Beccobunsen

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    1,54 something (not so bump-free lap) if i remember well. But you can check on the web chart...
    Uh no.. :D
     
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  4. 2ndLastJedi

    2ndLastJedi Free speech matters AMS2 Club Member

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    Laying in bed at 4am (can't sleep from pain :mad:) it would be great to have the Web chart instead of having to fire up the game to see times.
     
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  5. Billy Blaze

    Billy Blaze Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Anyone who is struggling with the RSR, check out this video. You're not alone - the best of the best had a hard time with it. Very cool historic video with commentary by Sir Jackie Stewart and Keith Jackson (Whoooooa Nellie!).

     
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  6. McClutch

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    What I see there is: The cars are very soft rollbar wise in the rear, springs for sure in general and obviously dont swing around as soon as you hit the grass with one tyre under full throttle. The real one seems a lot more controllable and forgiving regarding the rear coming around when in slightly of from ideal line.

    softest OEM spring rate for RSR in 1974
    Front 35N/mm
    Rear 55N/mm
    Such values are not even possible in AMS2, neither are the depending softer damper settings.
    These ranges, as well as toe in in the front and LSD ramps should be acessible for us in setup.
    10mm more chassis height in rear and front would not be wrong either.

    1.6° front camber seems a bit agressive since the front is very light, that will hurt lateral force the tyre can take. Usually early porsches used to show 0.1°- 0.2° more negetive camber in the rear, compared to the front, because thats where the weight is. The heavy rear is also the reason for no pronounced "lift off oversteer", but brake oversteer when Brake power is 50/50. To counter that, LSD is set at a more agressive ramp at braking.

    I still prefer a stable car that does not chew rubber too much, over an lose one, particularly after lap 10 on Nords onwards.
     
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  7. Dady Cairo

    Dady Cairo "Son of Spartakus" and "Leisure Nostradamus" AMS2 Club Member

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    The Porsche 934 Turbo RSR in RaceRoom has a Steering Angle of 900 degree and Steering lock of 25.I think the Steering Angle is very high or to high for such a race car.
    Compared to the AMS2 Porsche , imho i find it harder to drive the RaceRoom one,when cornering.I lowered the Steering Angle to 540 degree or so...still the cornering in narrow corners is hard,but you do not slip away with low speed if you take care.
    In AMS2 it's vice versa.But i love it more.Who knows what is real in both cars.:rolleyes:
    Edit: the values i wrote are wrong and now corrected !
     
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  8. Billy Blaze

    Billy Blaze Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    What I saw there was a very cool piece of motorsport history with some of my childhood heroes doing battle on a track that doesn't even exist anymore. Then I thought of myself as a very excited 9 year old kid watching that on TV, then going and sitting in my Dad's car pretending to be A.J. Foyt. Each there own I guess.
     
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  9. McClutch

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    I am an professial engineer, I see everything with the eye of an engineer ;)
    Whenever I see an rollercoaster I am spotting for lose bolts and rusty welds.
     
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  10. ozcanuck

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    Tried a few cars at Salvador, my fave so far is the Stock Car 2021.The Sprint Race struggle on the bumps making things difficult. I thought the Stock cars would be too much,but it’s a lot of fun.
     
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  11. Coanda

    Coanda aahhh whinge whinge f@#ken whinge.. Staff Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Are sure they are not wheel rate values..?
     
  12. Just2Laps

    Just2Laps Just2Laps - Racing is Fun

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    Did you try out the BMW M1 Procar ? It's great fun to drive it at Salvador, need only to be very careful for the first chicane avoiding the bumps, need to line up before passing it.
    (Sorry vid is in german language)
     
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    2ndLastJedi Free speech matters AMS2 Club Member

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    Wrong thread!
     
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  14. F1Aussie

    F1Aussie Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Tease
     
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    2ndLastJedi Free speech matters AMS2 Club Member

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    Crap sorry, i actually thought i was in the beta section! Removed my comment.
     
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  16. McClutch

    McClutch Well-Known Member

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    Torsion bar rates, the vintage porsches don't use coil springs.
     
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    F1Aussie Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Haha, can't take it back I replied to it so is in my post, lol. I think they should remove your beta access now and give it to me.:p
     
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    2ndLastJedi Free speech matters AMS2 Club Member

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    No i thing you should send me your DD1 as appreciation for me giving out secret info ;) Or at least pop over and let me borrow it for a while :p
    You could always edit it out for me :whistle:
     
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    F1Aussie Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Your more than welcome to come and try it out, should just be a short trip, around 1000km maybe. :D
     
  20. Coanda

    Coanda aahhh whinge whinge f@#ken whinge.. Staff Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Are you 100% sure about that..? I have very creditable information that suggests there were two options for the RSR; with and without coilovers..

    It is said the RSR had torsion bar options such as 19mm front & 26mm rear with a 22mm front t-bar option..
     
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