Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Hey Oliver,

Reg. LFB: Yes, it can be used to strengthen the lower forces. In the 5.x series it also can lower it. Here is how it works: custom lfb
You can pull the "v" slider to see the effect.
It also does a few other things, but this is the essense.

Reg. loss of information, higher LFB should help, but unf. the M1 pro car I think is one of the cars that physics wise is not set up well in AMS2, so if the FFB code strives too hard to "fix it" it will hurt your driving abilities, since it would have to mask what is happening. The car simply slides too much, just like a few others in AMS 2 (caterhams too for example). Do you have this lack of feel in other cars, like GTE, the new USA Carts, etc?

 

What are yours ingame settings?

 

It is really interesting to see how close all our settings are getting now, it seems like we cannot be far off a pretty awesome all-rounder file

 

We might need to find if there is something that has been lost going from 5.0,1 -> 5.0.5, that we want back, as @Kuku Maddog is hinting at and trying to figure out. So any feedback on that might help.

 

@Karsten Hvidberg I'm finding an unpleasant grinding feeling constantly. It doesn't seem to match in any way the engine revs so I think it as 'road noise'. Also there is very little sense of self-centering/castor effect still. This is with your 5.0.4 custom file. In game I'm using 30,8,35,0 I don't like the game's damping effect at all on my wheel.

 

Yes with the faster cars its much better. I think AMS doesnt well implement the old slower german cars.

 

Hey Neil,

Maybe FX slider is too high?

But if that is not good, then try and decrease
(road_rolling_slip_feel 1.0)
to something lower might help?

Reg. the little sense of self-centering that sounds weird, which car is it?
You can try changing "centering" value to see if anything helps?

It is interesting what might be required to make the Accuforce be nailed as well.

Best,

-K

 

I'll have a quick try with that parameter and report back.

reg the self-centering, it is all cars in my experience.

 

Hi

Generally around
55, 25, 25, 25 .

there’s no likelihood of my ingame settings being a golden goose, as it’s dependant on far to many variables of different wheel bases, different wheel software settings and different tastes.

but as a starting point it could be used as an indication of typical balance between effects.
Nothing too extreme or super low.
These settings are what I would run a F-USA around Watkins Glenn for example and could run all day and is a good test of max force’s.

lower speed and low downforce cars may need higher gain which can be done per car.

 

Thanks, but as per the post I'd linked, the damping makes no difference - to prove the point the video was taken with damping @ 100

 

What wheel base do you use?

 

Seems there's something not right. Damping definitely works to slow the response and avoid oscillations with Default/Default+ here.

 

In the "System" settings menu is the UDP protocol set to Project Cars 2? I don't have the same wheel as you, but I didn't have that set correctly and it wasn't communicating with my wheel software. I would think in game damping would still work, but sometimes weird things happen.

I didn't get a chance to read all your posts, so I apologize if you tried this already, but have you verified AMS2 steam files? Maybe it's got a corrupt file somewhere causing the issue.

 

A Simagic Alpha Mini DD
, but like I said don’t expect plug and play settings, you will need to find what works best for you. But I suggest starting at damper about half of gain . And you need gain to be set so that the min weight and maximum corner force is acceptable.

 

Tested your 5.0.5 vs Kuku's 5.0.1 back to back now, and I must say I prefer your 5.0.5.
The differences are very small, but I feel I have a bit more feeling about what the car is doing with your version.
It's difficult to describe, but I feel it is easier to feel when the car is about to loose grip, and when I'm a little bit too fast into a corner with 5.0.5.
This is on a DD1. I guess the feeling might be different on other wheel bases.

 

Yeah - everything verified, and even did a fresh install after 1.3. The UDP setting is for transmitting telemetry data, which isn't somethng I thought most/any wheels would listen for (unless using something like irffb). Anyway, gave it a try just in case, but no effect. No big deal - I'm very happy with Karsten and Kuku's work

 

DD1

 

Hey @Karsten Hvidberg , I also wanted to do some comparison tests between 5.0.5 and 5.0.1, I must say that I prefer 5.0.5, even if the difference, as already said by @torsteinvh, is very subtle, but it is more consistent and understandable.

If I succeed tomorrow I want to experiment on 5.0.5 the modification of these items with which I have not yet played a lot, we will see what comes out and what emotions if relevant.

(power_steering_angular (* 1.2 power_steering))
(power_steering_df (* 0.9 power_steering))
(power_steering_vel (* 0.3 power_steering))

Only one thing I would like to improve in 5.0.5, the extreme lightness to which the force drops when using cars with low downforce.
I'll give a numerical example to explain myself better, on a scale from 1 to 10, before the strength between all the cars was between a maximum of 10 and a minimum of 5, now it drops to 3 and it is too light at the bottom.
What could I change to just improve this aspect??
Only "static force reduction" modify or others voices??

 

I take it you are not using any damping slider ?
as without some use of it , i don’t think 5.0.1 works the way it’s intended too.
just like default it adds some resistance and weight to everything.

 

yes that over lightness was something i didn’t like with 5.0.5 .
that and much higher max forces in under high downforce load.

with the right balance of sliders, 5.0.1 feels significantly more consistent steering weight and the road textures come through more .
can even feel brake cantering better.