Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Yes what I found with the P1s and DPi's are that they feel lighter than expected at a given gain but that at that level, even while feeling lighter, they are clipping more than you would expect. Keep an eye on the ffb tool while you dial them in, Spa and Suzuka are great for this.

I also found the C9 to be similar in this respect, it's clipping more than you would expect at a given level of ffb. But for me again with the C9 I have a really good sense of what front end is doing. It's one of my favourites.

Also as was pointed out to be my some other members here, that steering in the real car is lighter than expected, due to castor angles, mechanical trail and other vehicled dynamic type things I don't really understand.

 

Experimental file,

In case somebody feels like wasting their time

 

A few laps around the Nordschleife in a 911 GTE is never a waste of time
5.0.5 feels very nice, my favorite among the v5 files so far! I could always feel what the car was doing, and could push really really hard. I was close to setting a new personal lap record, and that's pretty impressive after the latest patches that have slowed the cars a couple of seconds.

Now that I have finally sorted my oscillation problems I can really enjoy the game and the FFB again

 

Decreasing the FX will reduce the engine vibration but at the same time it will also reduce the other FX functions as well which may not be ideal solution.

I think the only way to reduce the engine vibration seperately is to edit a correct line and value inside the file. I think @Kuku Maddog or @Karsten Hvidberg can help you better with this issue.

 

Feels like reduced bump scale, Power-steering mode, aggressive ramp of cornering forces. Interesting.

 

Good day to everyone, after a small service, an overhaul of the engine parts, a fluid change and finally after a wonderful final internal wash, here I am again to disturb the peace of DD users with my very cheap and indestructible G920 (I hope to be indestructible too but that's another long story ).
For now i am happy to read again all of you!!!

I tried the new and fantastic files from version 5.0 onwards this morning, what to say about them, wonderful files and as always you take a step or better in this case a leap forward, so let me say WELLCOME BACK to @Karsten Hvidberg & Co.

I did a very fast test this morning and I must say that on Logitech (and I think on all low-end steering wheels) the file works great and conveys beautiful sensations even with the use of high GAIN, but on condition of using low values of LFB and low FX values ... even the repeated jolts on the Monza 10k concrete benches have almost completely disappeared except on the most powerful formula cars and especially if high LFB and FX are used.
Since for now 2,5Nm of torque power of my G920 I feel them as if they were 40Nm (and after 5 minutes I'm exhausted) I do not publish files tuned by me also because the changes would be practically negligible compared to the original, so I recommend for the base Logitech to safely use the original file or that of @Peter Stefani and set the sliders on the levels already highlighted by others for the low-end Gain 85-95 LFB 10-20 FX 30-50 DP 10-20 and modify the very few effects that as usual they want to emphasize.

Later, however, always if applicable to this last 5.0.5, I would need you to test an experiment that I had left pending .... possibly I would need confirmation and feedback from Logitech users or rather low-end users.

Great job guys!

EDIT: @Manolo thanks for everything you know why .....

 

Welcome back @Stakanov and also your indestructible G920. Hopefully you are feeling better now.

I will test the latest 5.0.5 version later this afternoon, it will be interesting to see how this version feels after @Kuku Maddog 's excellent modified 5.0.2K file.

 

That's a shame. The default file now feels sloppy and too vague on my G29 as the SAT is not strong enough compared to your old tunes. Given that the custom FFB files are still causing increased CPU load that is now bad enough to cause the slow-mo bug for me, I guess I'm going back to default FFB until something gets fixed.

 

Hey thanks @tUMi , along with the original 5.0.5, I also tried Kuku's one quickly and it's great as its files always are, the only difference that, in both files, I didn't hear well on a Logitech basis, it is static Damping at 0, personally it did not bring me the benefits or stabilizations that you feel on DD so in both cases I have reported the value to 0.30 for the moment ... but consider that on logitech I use very high GAIN unlike DD and maybe it is different or it is I who do NOT feel the sensations well yet ... I will definitely deepen.

Hi @azaris it's nice to hear from you , somehow I share your thoughts or feelings, also before having problems I was experimenting a lot with the Default + (for me much higher than the old Default) and finally with tons of damping and high effects on which can be used almost any car, high gain and lfb, although it remains loose and too chewy but very good ... but I just can't leave the Custom (compared to default) for me it is too informative, coherent and connected to the le wheels, corners and road and these last rows have a wonderful solid foundation which is obviously optimized for DD.
I just hope to find a solution to release forces occupied by the rack and use high lfb and fx ... I have something in mind but we'll see if it's a viable way or not. If you can help me in the tests if I find some solution ...

 

Welcome back dear @Stakanov , I hope everything goes well, good luck!
You have already tried Karsten's last file and, as you said, it is a wonderful file that I use on logitech g920 for the moment with settings 95-15-45-15 and little I have changed indeed practically nothing, I share your positive opinion, for me probably the best ever and fits almost all cars, but don't overdo it and take your time!

But I'm curious do you have something in mind?

 

Feels great to have you back Stakanov!
You have been missed, best of wishes to you, your health and a safe, full recovery!

Best,

-K

 

@Stakanov @Peter Stefani @Manolo

If you have any suggestions for change of LFB or Gain effect to better support some specific values in the file, please let me know. I will be happy to add some changes if you have some ideas.

 

Yes @Manolo it is something I had already tried before my personal problems on the previous file 4.6fix (I am not referring to the old karsten functions in file all in one) that I have not been able to publish .... however I have already transported everything to 5.0.5 and just have to tune it better and it's about grip, road, lfb and effects ... but I'll do it tonight if i are ok!

Hey @Karsten Hvidberg thank you very much, they tell me it was hard but I didn't notice it , now I just know that I get tired very easily but let's say it should be momentary ... so everything is ok!

I saw that as soon as I get distracted for a moment You bad boys take advantage of it and make another wonder! Congratulations you have outdone yourself.

Yes i have some ideas and if I don't bother you, in the late evening, can I send you two lines of code with a private message to verify its correctness? Or for advice or modification?

 

Yes, of course, any time, I will try to respond if I see it.

 

5.0.4 is perfect for me with only some very small personal preferences.
The only line that I changed that may effect overall performance was this one:
(velocity_res_scale 0.38)

Other than that, I love it, and thanks for all your work, and the others also.
Latest tweak for G920
93/10/25/1 In Game settings
12-26-22
ffb_custom_settings

 

I also like it (5.0.5) a lot and I don't know what and how to change it .... so that's okay for me.

 

When it comes to the work and effort that you guys put in NEVER!

 

Hey @Karsten Hvidberg

I just finished testing the 5.0.5 Experimental file and I certainly did not feel that I was wasting my time (testing your custom FFB files is an important work, after all)! In fact quite the opposite, I enjoyed every moment.

For me the 5.0.5 Experimental is definitely a significant step forward from the version 5.0.4 and also from any earlier version. Coming from @Kuku Maddog 's latest modified 5.0.2 file (named 5.0.2K) I think the 5.0.5 Experimental file and Kuku's latest modified 5.0.2 file does have a remarkable resemblance.

For example, the bump scale in the 5.0.5 Experimental feels like it has been significantly reduced from earlier versions which is a very pleasant change. Now the feel of the bumps is close to how they were felt in Kuku's 5.0.2K file and I definitely prefer the way how the bumps are now being handled in the 5.0.5 Experimental file. This is a very welcome change especially when driving the high downforce open-wheel cars such as the McLaren MP4/12 on bumpy tracks like Nordschleife. It certainly makes driving there easier and also much more pleasant especially when driving in Time Trial mode doing records as I no longer get the heavy jolts to my hands when driving through the big bumps (once the sweet spot was found for the car from the in-game FFB settings).

The overly aggressive bump scale and the heavy jolts when driving through bumps with the high downforce cars were the biggest culprit for me with all the previous rFuktor 5.0.x versions (except for Kuku's 5.0.2K file which handled the bumps much more pleasant way). I was very pleased to discover that this problem doesn't exist anymore in the 5.0.5 Experimental file.

Also I like the clarity and the direct feel of the FFB with the 5.0.5 Experimental file, it really makes the FFB feel so lively for my wheelbase. The way how the car's weight transfer feels in the wheel is amazing and correcting the car's oversteer also feels very logical no matter which car I'm driving.

The biggest difference I felt between these two files was the scrub and tear. In the 5.0.5 Experimental file the scrub and tear can clearly be felt noticeably earlier than in Kuku's 5.0.2K file when turning the wheel while entering into a corner. The difference to Kuku's 5.0.2K file was very clearly felt when I was driving the Corvette C8R GTE car on Laguna Seca.

Just a few days ago I preferred the way the scrub and tear was handled in Kuku's 5.0.2K file but now after several hours of intensive testing of both files I now seem to be converted again. Now I clearly prefer the way how the scrub and tear is handled in 5.0.5 Experimental file, it definitely helps the driving when pushing the car hard as I can feel better what the car and the tires are actually doing.

I did only one change in the file and set the static damping at 0.0. I didn't feel the need to do any further modifications in the file.

Almost forgot, here's my AMS2 in-game FFB settings for the 5.0.5 Experimental file:


For lower downforce cars (GTE/GT1):

Gain: 35
LFB: 10
FX: 30
Damping (power steering): 35


For higher downforce cars (such as McLaren MP4/12):

Gain: 30
LFB: 5
FX: 24
Damping (power steering): 37


For the McLaren MP4/12 I have set the vehicle specific FFB Gain at 80%.

Thank you so much @Karsten Hvidberg for your effort with the 5.0.5 Experimental file, this beauty is definitely a keeper for me and my new favourite custom FFB file at the moment.

 

Welcome back @Stakanov , it’s nice to hear you are on the mend.

@Karsten Hvidberg
I haven’t had a chance to fully explore 5.0.5 experimental yet, but it has some interesting changes than I need to examine more.
It almost reads as if it doesn’t have internal damping ?
A short two lap test felt a bit lighter in steering weight and I will probably have to adjust strength of certain sliders .

I’m not sure when I will be able to play with it, as of course it’s time to get organised for Xmas, and I will be away from home for a few days from tomorrow.
But there will probably be another file or two to try over this time, and probably a Game update that I will have to wait to try.
I’m still keen to experiment more with the original configuration of the 5.0/5.1 that had damping adjustment with slider, as that did have a pleasant first impression in the way the steering felt.

 

Any lifesign from @Alegunner68 ??
Did you try out those new 5.xx files?
I'd love to see a new belt wheel tune from you
The last one you provided was just fantastic for my T300

Regards,
Manuel