Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

What wheel base do you use?

 

Seems there's something not right. Damping definitely works to slow the response and avoid oscillations with Default/Default+ here.

 

In the "System" settings menu is the UDP protocol set to Project Cars 2? I don't have the same wheel as you, but I didn't have that set correctly and it wasn't communicating with my wheel software. I would think in game damping would still work, but sometimes weird things happen.

I didn't get a chance to read all your posts, so I apologize if you tried this already, but have you verified AMS2 steam files? Maybe it's got a corrupt file somewhere causing the issue.

 

A Simagic Alpha Mini DD
, but like I said don’t expect plug and play settings, you will need to find what works best for you. But I suggest starting at damper about half of gain . And you need gain to be set so that the min weight and maximum corner force is acceptable.

 

Tested your 5.0.5 vs Kuku's 5.0.1 back to back now, and I must say I prefer your 5.0.5.
The differences are very small, but I feel I have a bit more feeling about what the car is doing with your version.
It's difficult to describe, but I feel it is easier to feel when the car is about to loose grip, and when I'm a little bit too fast into a corner with 5.0.5.
This is on a DD1. I guess the feeling might be different on other wheel bases.

 

Yeah - everything verified, and even did a fresh install after 1.3. The UDP setting is for transmitting telemetry data, which isn't somethng I thought most/any wheels would listen for (unless using something like irffb). Anyway, gave it a try just in case, but no effect. No big deal - I'm very happy with Karsten and Kuku's work

 

DD1

 

Hey @Karsten Hvidberg , I also wanted to do some comparison tests between 5.0.5 and 5.0.1, I must say that I prefer 5.0.5, even if the difference, as already said by @torsteinvh, is very subtle, but it is more consistent and understandable.

If I succeed tomorrow I want to experiment on 5.0.5 the modification of these items with which I have not yet played a lot, we will see what comes out and what emotions if relevant.

(power_steering_angular (* 1.2 power_steering))
(power_steering_df (* 0.9 power_steering))
(power_steering_vel (* 0.3 power_steering))

Only one thing I would like to improve in 5.0.5, the extreme lightness to which the force drops when using cars with low downforce.
I'll give a numerical example to explain myself better, on a scale from 1 to 10, before the strength between all the cars was between a maximum of 10 and a minimum of 5, now it drops to 3 and it is too light at the bottom.
What could I change to just improve this aspect??
Only "static force reduction" modify or others voices??

 

I take it you are not using any damping slider ?
as without some use of it , i don’t think 5.0.1 works the way it’s intended too.
just like default it adds some resistance and weight to everything.

 

yes that over lightness was something i didn’t like with 5.0.5 .
that and much higher max forces in under high downforce load.

with the right balance of sliders, 5.0.1 feels significantly more consistent steering weight and the road textures come through more .
can even feel brake cantering better.

 

Danke Daniel. ICh werd das mal versuchen. Also du nutzt die 5.01. Was fur parameter hast du da noch geandert? Schuldige Deutsch ist nicht mein Erstsprache. Danke.

 

Yeah I am using the cusotm file and I do get the oscillations. ALthough I am a bit confused to the Heavy messing 2.5 files I found on here and the 5.0x files so I will start playing around with those and see what works better. Sorry I'm new to this Thanks for the reply though.

 

Man... I'm going through so many posts here since yesterday and just gotta say this: Damn you guys are nerds when it comes to this stuff and I ****ing love it. Thanks to all that are contributing here and happy holidays!

 

The Heavy messing files by @NuScorpii are very old. We haven't seen him around here for quite some time. It has really only been @Karsten Hvidberg and crew for awhile. They are doing a great job in making AMS2 the best.

 

[QUOTE = "Kuku Maddog, post: 166143, member: 21004"] I take it you are not using any damping slider?
as without some use of it, i don't think 5.0.1 works the way it's intended too.
just like default it adds some resistance and weight to everything. [/ QUOTE]

There's a good chance the "madness bug" is playing tricks.

People getting weird oscillations on dd1 bases using the custom files as well as people not feeling a difference using damping slider on Default/Default+.
There are more cases than these 2 of weird behavior that some encounter while others don't.
So far I was under the impression the bug would always surface the same for all users, but it seems highly likely that some percentage are exposed to it slightly differently.
@Domagoj Lovric please see this, as I think we do have evidence it's now a serious issue, no matter which ffb configuration the user picks, based on chance.

 

@Karsten Hvidberg

I have as you a Simucube 2 Pro with last driver installed. Especially with formula cars I have oscillations (with all 5.X) as soon as I remove the hands of the wheel (back strait of Adelaide Historic for example).
Any tips to avoid that?

in game
=======
GAIN 38
LFB 4
FX 24
DAMPER as power steering 20

TD
==
Strenght 80%
Damping 0
Friction 0
Inertia 0

 

Interesting
With default the ffb is hopeless for me without using moderate damper, as it adds the control to the wheel.
Both against my input and to resist the output forces of the game so they done run away.
And basically is crucial to overall weight.

 

Initially I had the damping slider at 1 to avoid possible calculation errors having it at 0.
Did some more testing with your 5.0.1 now, and with a bit of damping it felt better
Anything up to 15 was very manageable oscillation wise, running at 10 for the moment.

But from about 20 and above the damping slider works more as an oscillation amplifier, both on custom files and default FFB (@Karsten Hvidberg as well).
Might be something with DD1 bases in general, or something with my setup specifically.
Here's my Fanatec settings:

In-game is
Gain 45
LFB 5
FX 25
Damping 10

 

I get you, I get oscillation at high speed if I take my hands completely off the wheel, but it’s not an issue otherwise, and taking hands of the wheel at 200- 300kph isn’t normally something I would do
. So I’m happy to live with it, for the overall feel of connection and full road texture at straight centre.
But your wheel base is more powerful than mine so maybe it’s a bigger issue that is trying to pull the wheel while you are holding it ?

 

There's no problems when I'm holding the wheel, it's just when I sligthly let go. So it's more of a security concern as I have small kids that might distract me at any moment
But regardless, your file feels great even with less damping than what is probably optimal.