Automobilista 2 April 2023 Development Update

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - News & Announcements' started by Renato Simioni, Apr 30, 2023.

  1. jedlin12

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    Wish there was some info about Racin' USA Bonus part, but nontheless that report is promising. Especially the part about improving netcode.
     
  2. WhippyWhip

    WhippyWhip Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    opinions are not misinformation, no matter how much you disagree with them
     
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  3. RockettSally

    RockettSally The Average AMS2 enjoyer

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    Yes, yes they are.

    If you give a opinion based on wrong premises, it is misinformation and damaging.

    See how many people still claims AMS2 feels like PCars 2, despite that NOT being the case at all. A single race session on both games back-to-back should've clarified that.

    Why are you being stubborn to understand that?
     
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  4. Dolph

    Dolph Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    For some reason defending a Reiza hater is a hill he will die on in the AMS2 forum. Go figure.
     
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  5. sedesa tatasa2

    sedesa tatasa2 BANNED BANNED AMS2 Club Member

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    Youtuber said the food was bad and reiza said it was cooked the wrong way.
    I don't know why reiza is angry.
     
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  6. RockettSally

    RockettSally The Average AMS2 enjoyer

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    Honestly, I'm sad that this thread derailed because of the "YouTube thingy".

    But I get the frustration. See how [the current other sim] received a huge physics update and everyone is praising it and going into details on it, even as far as instructing the deletion of Document Files and Setup Resets (now, where have I seen that before).

    Meanwhile, when AMS2 does the same thing, the [simracing circlejerk community] jumps on the attack hate-train and claims Reiza is lazy, uncapable and other negative adjectives here.

    But, word to the wise, @Renato Simioni I get your frustration but avoid these comments, the more we touch on the subject, the worse it gets as it'll drag more and more and the harder it'll be to win the hearts and minds of those who've criticized you and the team on the past, or even new fans.

    I know you've been dealing with that for the past 10 years, but AMS2 is way bigger than GSCE or AMS1 for that matter, and repercussions are much more damaging to all parties.

    Prove them wrong with v1.5 update! Prove them wrong with these passionate Dev Updates.

    Best regards from Curitiba!
     
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  7. WhippyWhip

    WhippyWhip Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    the fact you think opinions are misinformation says it all really, by definition an opinion cannot be misinformation, it's really quite worrying that anyone can think otherwise
     
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  8. RockettSally

    RockettSally The Average AMS2 enjoyer

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    One of the reasons I love Madness Engine was because of the tech talk about SETA and Real Weather back in the day. I remember fondly the Daytona dynamic weather thing where one part of the track was dry and other was wet.

    Mind-blowing
     
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  9. WhippyWhip

    WhippyWhip Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    i don't hate reiza at all, the game has massive potential actually if they ever get multiplayer working in an acceptable manor

    but i will always defend anyone in their right to have an opinion no matter what side of the argument they are on, especially when nonsense like misinformation is trying to be claimed
     
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  10. RockettSally

    RockettSally The Average AMS2 enjoyer

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    "In my opinion, AMS2 is never going to reach its full potential because of the Madness Engine that is fundamentally broken"

    Misinformation on an opinion piece, see?
     
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  11. WhippyWhip

    WhippyWhip Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    the quote is an opinion, it CANNOT be misinformation because it's an OPINION !
    do you not understand language?
     
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  12. Ettore

    Ettore Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    "My opinion is your brains aren't right".
    Where does the freedom of opinion ends? It ends where you have no knowledge and/or prove of what you are stating. And so is for the majority of the statements from GM and JB.
    We should really close the subject, because the more we talk about certain people the more we advertise them and certainly they don't deserve it given the quality of the production.
     
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  13. Artremis

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    Bit of a shame that the IndyCar licensing didn't work out, but glad all that work didn't go to waste. Just wanna ask something, if I already have the Premium Track Pack but not the 2020-22 Season Pass, do I get Barcelona? There was some confusion over this a few months ago because of the Steam description saying there would be a 6th upcoming track, but then it was clarified that there wasn't one with the description now making no mention of the 6th track, and now the dev update seems to imply it's actually included.
     
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  14. Shriukan

    Shriukan Touristenfahrten Community AMS2 Club Member

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    Just did a quick google so we can go full meta.

    upload_2023-5-1_19-39-23.png Research Guides: Misinformation - Get the Facts: What is Misinformation?

    https://www.producer.com/opinion/misinformation-label-often-used-to-dismiss-others-opinions/
     
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  15. Renato Simioni

    Renato Simioni Administrator Staff Member

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    I don´t think you get the discussion taking place, and in your analogy I´m afraid you are the customer who doesn´t like the food and yet keeps coming back for more - here, let me help you out showing you the door.
     
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  16. RockettSally

    RockettSally The Average AMS2 enjoyer

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    LMAO
     
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  17. Renato Simioni

    Renato Simioni Administrator Staff Member

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    I have no intention to make this a bigger deal than it really is, but I do think it´s a valid criticism, and I´ve explained thoroughly why I think that is. Luckily I´ve been very deliberate about setting up a business in which we can get by without any pandering we don´t feel is warranted, so there´s no need to lose sleep if someone makes it into something that it isn´t.

    Now if we may let´s all please get back on topic.
     
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  18. Manbird12000

    Manbird12000 Active Member

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    Speak for yourself bro, I’ve always hated and always will avoid multiplayer racing. I have no interest in racing other people nor engaging in the social aspect that goes with it. Give me good AI and I can race whenever I want, wherever I want and however I want.
     
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  19. Sberla84

    Sberla84 MotorSimItaly

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    It's a very interesting insight, so if I correctly understand you had to work from the beginning with a bugged physics model and now you managed to do all the bugfixing and clean up? Considering how good your Reiza pack in rf2 i was sure there must have been something weird in the physics engine. I am glad you found out and waiting for 1.5!
     
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  20. Manbird12000

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    I find that a lot of youtubers who are critical of AMS2 (not all of them) are just fanboys of other racing sims who have no desire to be open minded enough to accept different racing platforms which dare stray from the standard they set based on their favorite sim. I cringe whenever people put AMS2 down because it doesn’t have the same physics as another sim, like who the hell said THAT sim is the standard for realism? Plus the fact that many of these people don’t bother spending 5 minutes of research to understand that AMS2 is NOTHING like PC2. So whenever I see a YouTube title “AMS2 is it worth it?” or any other pre-judgmental trash title like that, with some dude sitting in front of a $4,000 racing rig, I don’t even bother clicking.
     
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