Automobilista 2 V1.5 Officially RELEASED - Now updated to V1.5.0.5

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - News & Announcements' started by Renato Simioni, Jul 25, 2023.

  1. ricxx

    ricxx Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I think that poll is as skewed as my little forum poll :D As you said, many league racers and maybe also some public online racing plebs like me are gravitating more towards more online focused titles.

    One more or less reliable way of checking which mode is more popular is to check achievements that can only be unlocked online or offline.
     
  2. Inkta

    Inkta Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Please don't start the MP/SP discussion again.. take it to another thread
     
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  3. Micropitt

    Micropitt Mediocre driver doing mediocre laps AMS2 Club Member

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    If you don't mind, would you please make a separate Thread for the AI discussion? It doesn't really belong here in this Thread. Thank you. :)
     
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  4. CrimsonEminence

    CrimsonEminence Administrator Staff Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Official AI Report Topic

    It's better suit in this location and doesn't get lost in the shuffle.
     
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  5. jmac_the_man

    jmac_the_man Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    The only racing series that use a NASCAR-style Double Line Rule are NASCAR and ARCA (which is owned by NASCAR). There are zero vehicles from any NASCAR or ARCA series, from any era, in the game.

    I wish there was. I'd love a Cup-style stock car in the game in Racing USA Part 4. (Renato, this would be a great place to break out the whistling emoji.)

    But all the cars in the actual game, including the ones flagged as "Oval," come from series that enforce a normal track limits rule rather than NASCAR's Double Line Rule.

    Well, since it's the normal track limits rule, probably not that much. The Double Line Rule is different than normal track limits though, which is why it would take more time to implement than just adding more off limits areas.

    Also, adding a UI option that only applies to one track, that only exists in a series that isn't in the game - in a game that isn't targeted at fans of that series - is going to add to the support burden for Reiza.

    Look how many forum posts there are about "How does push-to-pass work in FUSA 2023?" The answer is that it works the same way it works in IndyCar. But it's not IndyCar fans asking that question, is it?

    Well, the thing you're describing isn't how the Double Line Rule works in real life, so implementing your rule wouldn't make the game more realistic. In real life, if a car forces you below the Double Line, you ARE allowed to pass them. Also, the more pertinent part of the Double Line Rule in video games, at least in my experience, is that you're not allowed to force another car below the Double Line. If you're not penalizing that, you're not enforcing the Double Line Rule either.

    AMS2 isn't smart enough to automatically assign fault to the user or the computer-controlled car in that kind of a collision. Maybe someday we can use AI for that, but right now the engine doesn't support it.

    Never played the Eutechnix games, so I can't speak to that. But none of the Monster Games series nor the EA series games simulated this rule.
     
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  6. JavierZumaeta

    JavierZumaeta Active Member

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    do you have a link to this video?? sounds amazing, haha!
     
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  7. Maser V6

    Maser V6 Assume nothing._ Verify everything._Have fun AMS2 Club Member

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    relocated post. Ai thread.
     
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  8. Don Hunter

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    Not in nascar, two wrongs don’t make a right and that’s not their rule. The car passing below the line will be penalized. If you think about it, if he’s passing you below the yellow, you’re not going below him and the yellow to retake that position

    “ real life, if a car forces you below the Double Line, you ARE allowed to pass them”



     
  9. Lucifer_sam

    Lucifer_sam Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Not correct. NASCAR just sucks at calling it

    Video of Dale Jr passing below the yellow line and not getting a penalty:


    Video of Denny Hamilin being forced below the yellow line and not getting a penalty (let's not debate this please):


    Video of a driver getting penalized for forcing a competitor below the yellow line:
     
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  10. IronManAB78

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    Thanks Mhad, that's the post I was refering to. ;)
     
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  11. Johnny37

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    thanks, I will try that!
     
  12. Don Hunter

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    I never said there wasn’t a rule saying you can’t pass below the double yellow line. My point was the car being passed below the double yellow can’t go below also to retake.

    As far as nascar not making the calls, it’s their sanctioning body, they’ve always done what they feel right at the time. Nascar does suck with stage racing, chase championship and the ugly cars with funky wheels,


     
  13. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Can’t say i’ve tried a Truck lately.
    but have just completed a league season with PCup that started before 1.5 and went through the revisions and it felt consistent throughout.

    And also have spent considerable time in GT3s since 1.5 and the Porsche is undoubtedly my favourite as has the most engaging and informative feel and is so much more fun while still remaining consistent with what it felt like before 1.5 with custom file.

    If you’re experiencing oddities it’s something to do with the file edit.
     
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  14. Dylan Hale

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    Looks like the Nascar licence will be up for grabs soon... Hey Reiza, Racing USA part 5?
     
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  15. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    The Copa Truck has acknowledged issues. Not 100% sure if @Coanda has completed his work on them, or, if he has, whether it is in the current version of the beta we have.
     
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    sgsfabiano Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I'd bet most offline players roleplay like that. Hence why many of them don't get too bothered when they can overtake 5, 6, 7 cars in the first corner of the first lap. Or when the AI make way for the player to overtake. Or when the AI doesn't benefit the same way as the player from slipstreaming. Or... well, any immersion breaking behaviour from the AI.

    So it is easier to be satisfied with AMS2 AI, iRacing AI, etc. Possibly these people are happier than the grumpy ones like me who cannot accept those AI behaviours :)
     
  17. Gevatter

    Gevatter The James May of Simracing AMS2 Club Member

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    I don't, but I may be in the minority on this one. I like to set the AI strength so I qualify mid field, and usually I stay there because I'm just not fast enough :D This takes a bit of effort because AI strength needs a bit of adjustment depending on the car and track combination.

    I also tend to not overtake a lot on the run to the first corner, because offline, you make your own fun, and I find it more fun not to jump 5 cars in the first 30 seconds of the race but to keep it somewhat realistic.
     
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  18. Coanda

    Coanda aahhh whinge whinge f@#ken whinge.. Staff Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Copa Trucks FFB revisions are on hold for now due to a issue with how the rack polarity is working. It's a little more involved than that however I wont bore or go into details here. There is a open ticket to further investigate and rectify this issue which hopefully will be in the not to distant future..
     
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  19. Dylan Hale

    Dylan Hale Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Can I ask for a small clarification in regards to the future Leman’s mod pack?

    In the Forum Dev update, you mentioned LMP and LMDH cars and updated GT3 cars to simulate next year's race.

    However, in the Twitter announcement, you mention Prototypes and GT cars from this year's race. (Which would make the GT cars GTE cars?)
     
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  20. Maser V6

    Maser V6 Assume nothing._ Verify everything._Have fun AMS2 Club Member

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    Just an observation.
    It would appear a valid Question here given.
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    Early reports there are strictly as OP req. but slip to discussion?
    Quote (please no discussing of other user reports - ).
    Posts that don´t adhere to the above guidelines may be removed so we can keep the topic on track.


    Whether AI or MP here or?
     
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