Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. Michael3

    Michael3 Active Member

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    I think you just need to purchase a VR headset. Sit in the car and you'll realise straight away it's not in the wrong place. You are.
     
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    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    correctly! Anyone who has VR knows that it is right. Sit on the roof of a car with VR and it will change your entire visual experience and you won't be able to drive. As soon as you sit in the car everything is perfect. But it will in no way change the FFB, the physics or the rotation of the car
     
  3. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    I think you need moderation.
    I would be enough for you to say in VR it doesn't happen like I describe or you feel differently. I would accept that, no worries.
    Like you said, is just offensive.
     
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  4. Michael3

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    I can only suggest that must be because English isn't your native language.

    What I typed in the last post is just objective fact.

    Put differently, there's no bug for anyone to fix.
     
  5. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    Your last sentences make me believe is not a matter of language, we can understand each well enough.

    So, if for you, in VR everything is ok, Reiza should not care about those driving single or triple monitors or feel something you don't feel, because everything is ok?
    The sim should mention "only VR" is it's description, don't you think?

    GamerMuscle feels the way I do about this, felt the differential was wrong too... Reiza already found the differential bug in Madness engine... What if...?

    ps - I would be more careful about "facts" when we're talking about human experience. In my native language we call it "arrogância”.
     
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  6. Michael3

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    Clearly not.

    This makes very little sense at all for example. But as far as I can understand what you're trying to say it seems to be an attempt to put words in my mouth. It's certainly not something I've posted. If that's what you imagine you read then you didn't understand it.

    People play driving games looking at a monitor using a controller. If they say "Fix the game, the car turns funny like it's got a wheel in the middle" - that's when I said "You need VR...the game is not broken" - but millions of kids manage just fine to drive like that - I'm not saying they shouldn't.

    It's an objective fact that you're not sat in the car if you're looking at a monitor. Or even 3 monitors. It's an objective fact that the car isn't in the wrong place in 3d space - you are. You are in the wrong place - and it's not a surprise that it feels strange. However, a lot of people have learned how to play computer games that work like that, sims included.

    Unless, like Mary Poppins you can jump inside the chalk picture you'll forever be outside of it looking at it. That's a fact. VR lets you be Mary Poppins.

    Regardless of that - the idea that there's some FFB setting that will change any of this makes no sense at all and this is the thread for custom force feedback.
     
  7. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    VR: In my experience, any discrepancies in car handling / physics / unnatural view characteristics, etc., will be amplified when driving in VR (More obvious).

    Regarding FFB: If the timing of ffb effects is out of sync (often due to non-optimal Damping level), car handling will just feel wrong - period. Depending on the steering system in use, damping level in AMS2 is a critical setting to get right but, varies based on wheel. This especially applies to self-aligning-torque (SAT) steering characteristics.
     
  8. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    I will not bother with this topic any further because it will not benefit me or the users and I have expressed my point of view on it.Everyone can believe and do whatever they please.Arguing doesn't help

    But I can announce my V500 to people, which will bring a smile back to my face and I'm sure the users too.I was able to react very quickly to the changes from the update.The range of customs will become even more precise (9 files in total) and the selection will become even easier for people.The biggest improvement is in the brakes and the braking feel will get even better, it's fantastic.

    I'll post it to you next week when things have calmed down a bit with the update from Reiza and the users.

    I wish you a nice evening
     
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  9. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    What's new:
    • Improved high G-Forces cars feeling (previously, clipping occoured)
    • Improved loss of front grip feeling
    • Improved car rotation and rear loosing grip feeling
    • Adjustments in braking and vertical bumps definition
    • Implemented surface transitions effects (track-kerbs-offroad transitions)
    • Reduced standstill force
    • Reduced scrub effects
    Still to improve/implement:
    • Bottoming out effect, to be on a par with sound fx. Depends on Reiza, but expected to come :)
    • ABS/TC effects, perhaps? Reiza..? :)
     
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  10. Racinglegend1234

    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    Do you or anyone else have recommended settings for the CSL DD with boost kit?
     
  11. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    Whatever doesn't change anything... :)
    See my Moza settings (a few posts back) to get an idea.

    Perhaps someone with the same wheelbase can jump in.
     
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  12. thun0r

    thun0r New Member

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    Would also be interested in this for the CSL DD 8nm
     
  13. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    Show me the settings and I'll tell you what to choose... Then you go from there to get the best for you.
    If you don't choose neutral settings (settings that won't change original signal) your already creating a different flavor, which is fine for your individual use but may not be the same too others.
    That's why I create incentives to start with neutral settings.

    All in all, I recommend changing parameters in the file itself rather than put the wheelbase in charge - that's one benefit of custom files.
     
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  14. TKracer

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    Not been following this thread too much, but can this be used with the simucube 2 sport? or is it tuned for a specific wheel?
     
  15. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Good morning!

    The Customs V500 will be released soon.These will look like this:

    1. File V500 1-3Nm
    2. File V500 4-5Nm
    3. File V500 6-7Nm
    4. File V500 8-9Nm
    5. File V500 10-11Nm
    6. File V500 12-13Nm
    7. File V500 14-15Nm
    8. File V500 16-18Nm

    9. File V400 Rally 1-20Nm


    Additionally I will add the following bases:

    Simucube 2 Pro 25Nm
    Fanatec CSL 2.5 6Nm
    Fanatec DD1 20Nm
    Fanatec dd 5Nm
    Fanatec dd 8Nm
    Simagic Alpha Mini 10Nm
    Simagic Alpha 15Nm
    Simagic Ultimate 23 Nm
    Assetek La Prima 12Nm
    Assetek Forte 18Nm
    Assetek Invicta 20Nm

    See you soon

    Daniel
     
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  16. Rivanov

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    Champ!
     
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  17. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    Every custom file is tune with a specific wheel (the one we own), not necessarily for a specific wheel :).
    Try to contact Elcid43 that liked it in his SC2 Pro (page 359).
     
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  18. zebra_afs

    zebra_afs New Member

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    Hi guys
    does anybody own a T-818?
    I am struggling with the in game settings since v1.5.3.
    I will really appreciate if anyone could give me some ponters?
    cheers
     
  19. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    I have a different opinion. Reiza also gives recommendations for their defaults for the bases. Yes, the customs are a little more difficult, but that's exactly why I wrote my customs for different powers and also for different bases. If these forces are correct in the file then it doesn't matter whether it is a dd or a belt-base. And with my V400 and now V500 customs it has been made even easier for me to recommend settings for the different bases. Because a lot of filters are eliminated and the file does that for the users
     
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  20. one1002

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    hi guys.

    I am new to AMS 2, and interested in trying custom FFB file for my simagic alpha mini. Which one should i go for?

    Thanks!
     

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