Featured Automobilista 2 V1.6 Development Update - The New Cars

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - News & Announcements' started by Renato Simioni, Nov 11, 2024.

  1. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    You haven't driven many race cars, then. The vibrations just while sitting in neutral with the engine "idling" can be very noticeable, as we feel in AMS 2. I put "idling" in quotation marks because if you do some research you'll realize that some race engines do not "idle" at all, like a road car.

    Race cars and karts have such direct steering and road feel that is nothing like a road car. You feel like you are connected to the track, with no cushioning, bushings or any other luxury features in between. Noise is the same--no sound deadening, no mufflers on the exhaust. Nothing that adds weight or complexity that doesn't help the car go faster. This raw feeling is what AMS 2 does better than any other sim. And to be honest, it's part of what is lost in all the custom FFB files I have tried. They have some amazing features and configurability, but none replicate the direct, raw and dynamic feeling of Default+ that is closest to a real race car in my experience.
     
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    AMS2 1.5 has been locked up for slidey behavior. Officials are seeing substantial behavorial changes enough to declare it 1.6.

    It's a horrible joke. I'll think of something brilliant later when it's completely irrelevant.
     
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    I also really like default +. Only problem I have with it is that I have to dampen it so much as its overreacting, oscillating.
    I literally can't let go of the wheel at any point as it goes mad.
     
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  4. GROVER-8-SRT

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    Thank you Renato can't wait... no pressure ;)
     
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    Is there any information regarding LFM how it plans to implement AMS2 multiplayer races for example will it be Season 1 Hypercars, Season 2 LMDh, Season 3 Formula Classic, etc? Or will the cars raced change weekly? I wonder how this will work.
     
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    I’ve purchased both games in the past few months with all content - cost me around the same each $200 NZD.

    My second time purchasing AMS2 in it’s entirety (lost my old steam account) and no regrets for the smiles per dollar.
     
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  7. john Ellis

    john Ellis The Rectifier of Names AMS2 Club Member

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    If by "everyone" you mean Renato's child prodigy banging out lap records on the trusty G25, then yes, AMS2 V1.6 RC1, RC2, & RC3 were for "everyone" ;)
     
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  8. Darko Jovanoski

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    I know two guys who were proffessional car drivers and competting in world competitons, one of them drive Porsche Carrera Cup, other one Ferrari 488, one of them is former champion in mountain tracks, I had opportunity to speak with them, both of them said rFactor 2 is best sim but for actual learninf the track and feeling of the car they use RRE, which means ffb too. If they don't know what is real what is not I don't know who does :)
     
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  9. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    You need some adjustment on your base or in the game sliders. Excess oscillation does not happen when everything properly adjusted. But it is still VERY lively, which is why some poor settings can push it over the edge as in your case.
     
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  10. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    Some F1 drivers have used Playstations to learn the basics of a new track. It would be great to some day compare a professional simulator to what we have in our "prosumer" sims. It's easy for us to compare "prosumer" to the wide array of "video games," but only a handful of people have used both a professional sim and properly configured "prosumer" sim on properly set-up equipment. Max Verstappen is one of them.
     
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    Thanks for the previous response !

    For the FFB it is really hard to judge beacause its depends a lot of the physics.

    I found the Default+ quite good but a bit too much dynamic so with a DD it is too extreme on curbs and bumps

    On physics side i think that TC can be improve.

    And for others aspects of the sim work on MSAA + shadow , driver swap and adding content can put AMS 2 in the best sim to have
     
  12. Steve Low

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    they all look fantastic and I am looking forward to the new update.... if only we had driver swaps we could have team racing....please please give us that
     
  13. Joaquim Pereira

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    I'll add the offroad ffb... or the lack of it. A racing car offroad is a roller coster not heaven :D (other sims do this better).
    But I don't complain about it ;), as @Marc Collins says Default+ does a very good job doing what it is supposed to do and there are alternatives for everyone to try.
     
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    FINE! The v1.6 update has been postponed by 6 months to implement driver swaps. Please send your thanks to Steve Low.

    :)
     
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  15. Alexandre Costa

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    I understand that you are joking. But I really hope that after 1.6 Reiza starts focusing on those details. There are so much to be done, with proper physics, a more stable multiplayer and a better AI, I hope they'll have more time for the details and persistent bugs.
     
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  16. Khalid

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    Off topic ( but i swear this is the last time)

    The use of "real life drivers" for discussions in sim racing should not even be a thing in my opinion. People that drive the same car in real life can have two very different opinions of that car, just from their driving style. And when real life drivers disagree (and they do) on what they find realistic in a sim realistic in a sim (just llike we do), what happens then? The term at this point has been reduced to prove points amd measure sticks (just check the comment section of the most basic sim comparisons on youtube (im mostly looking at you iracers :) ))
    And for learning of the track, as long as the sim has a good enough level of car/physics realism and a close representation of the track in question, you can certainly use it to learn for a track day. Unless thers a sim that can throw you around like a real car and instill the real fear of crashing in you, that will alwats be the case.
     
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  17. Andrew Curtis

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    Without dev updates I genuine don't know what the purpose fo this thread is supposed to be
    Tell me you've never tried a motion sim without telling me you've never tried a motion sim.
    I've been thrown around PLENTY in AMS2 and it does make you a little afraid of crashing..
     
  18. Don Hunter

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    LFM for official like races. leagues, how’s that going to be with 1.6

     
  19. Don Hunter

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    GT3 cars, their road counterparts all use electric power steering, race car also. Older F1 cars , the ir18 has no p/s. To get the raw feeling out of the steering you’ve got to go back some years and more with one wheel cars
     
  20. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    For me, today's GT3's barely qualify as race cars :)
     
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