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Ams2 and Real Cars [Just for Fun]

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Beccobunsen, Jul 17, 2020.

  1. Beccobunsen

    Beccobunsen Well-Known Member

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    I have seen various videos on Youtube (quarentinwhile ..) of various cars present in AMS2.
    I know there is a driveability controversy from the Papyrus Indy 500 (yes I'm old) y I wanted to do a reality check.

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    Ginetta 55 and Sprint Race this post
    Sprint Race
    Brazil Stock Car 2020
    Super Clio
    Ultima Gtr
    Roco
    Metalmoro
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    Ginetta 55: given my inability to control the beast, I began to verify how the situation is from the real.






    First there are Ginettas with the wheel on the left...
    Second : It seems that it is quite wild as an experience without abs and a perpetual transmission noise, perhaps in other simulators are too polished? (ACC)

    Sprint Race.

    Currently my favorite series,seems to reproduce almost all sensations perfectly (look at the bump!)
     
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  2. Micropitt

    Micropitt Mediocre driver doing mediocre laps AMS2 Club Member

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    Great videos. Thanks for posting. I still don't know what make and model the Sprintcar is.... :eek:
    The over steering of the G55 in video #3 :whistle:
     
  3. Beccobunsen

    Beccobunsen Well-Known Member

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    [EDIT FROM VARIUS REPLY]
    Sprint race

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    Chassis
    Tubular spaceframe chassis covered with aluminum sheets.
    Flat wooden floor and fiberglass diffuser.
    Foam rubber fuel tank with a capacity of 70 liters.

    Brakes & Wheels & Suspension
    Brakes: 6 piston caliper and 330x30mm discs
    Discs: Fremax
    Tablets: Ecopads

    PIRELLI 265/645 - R18 tires.
    Suspension: double triangle and push rods.
    Shock absorbers: JRZ, 2-way bump and rebound regulation.

    Adjustable stabilizer bars.
    Interior & Engine & Gear
    Pilot positioned, exactly in the center for greater safety and weight distribution.
    Exchange: Sadev rear longitudinal, 6 gears, sequential with power shift.
    Engine: V6, 3.6 liters - 270hp.

    Bodywork
    Fairing: Composites (fiber reinforced plastic)
    Windshield: Polycarbonate
    Rear wing: Fiberglass and aluminum support
    Extractor - Fiberglass
    Gull wing doors
    Assembly items: - Rear hood, central cock, hood and bumper doors


    Sorry only in Portugúes..


    Official Wesite
    https://sprintrace.com.br/

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    They changed their name in Sprint Race GT, and start another series
    DADOS TÉCNICOS – Sprint Race 2020
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    Chassis
    Tubular space frame chassis covered with aluminum sheets.
    Flat wooden floor and fiberglass diffuser.
    Foam rubber fuel tank with a capacity of 70 liters.

    Brakes & Wheels & Suspension
    Brakes: 6-piston caliper dopler and 330 x 30 mm discs
    Discs: Fremax
    Tablets: TecPads

    Tires: YOKOHAMA 260/650 R18 model A005 (Slick - dry track) and A006 (Wet-wet track).
    Suspension: Double triangle and push rods.
    Shock absorbers: JRZ, 2-way bump and rebound regulation.
    Adjustable stabilizer bars.

    Interior & Engine & Gear
    Pilot positioned, exactly in the center for greater safety and weight distribution.
    Exchange: Sadev rear longitudinal, 6 gears, sequential with power shift.
    Engine: V6, 3.6 liters - 300hp.
    Weight: 1,000 kg.

    Bodywork
    Fairing: Composites (fiber reinforced plastic)

    Windshield: Polycarbonate
    Rear wing: Fiberglass and aluminum support
    Extractor - Fiberglass
    Doors - Seagull wing
    Assembly items: - Rear hood, central cock, hood doors and bumper

    Dimensions: 1.80 between axles, 4.90 in length, 1.28 in height and 1.94 in gauge.

     
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  4. lawgicau

    lawgicau Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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  5. Micropitt

    Micropitt Mediocre driver doing mediocre laps AMS2 Club Member

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    I had no idea the Sprint Race car was based on the Renault Clio.
    I wonder if we get the GT one day as well. Would be cool.
     
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  6. Micropitt

    Micropitt Mediocre driver doing mediocre laps AMS2 Club Member

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  7. 2ndLastJedi

    2ndLastJedi Free speech matters AMS2 Club Member

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    Reiza certainly did this and more in the years leading up to AMD 2 ;) Even the free Copa Petrobas de Marcia's :)
     
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  8. Micropitt

    Micropitt Mediocre driver doing mediocre laps AMS2 Club Member

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    I'm almost embarrassed how little I know about the Brazilian car racing scene :cool:
     
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  9. Juan Reinoso

    Juan Reinoso Doctor SimRacing AMS2 Club Member

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    Although the Super Clio Brazil category is the predecessor of the Sprint Race Brazil category, these Sprints have nothing of the Renault Clio

    To be clear, Sprint Race isn't a Renault Clio
     
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  10. Micropitt

    Micropitt Mediocre driver doing mediocre laps AMS2 Club Member

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    So, what is the Sprint Racer based on? Or was it developed specific for that series?
     
  11. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    It's a purpose-built, relatively light and cheap race car with skins added. The new series has Mustang and Camaro skins! The one we have in AMS 2 is hard to identify other than the Lexus/Toyota family front end design.
     
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  12. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    Yes all reviewers and fanboys of ACC should watch the third video prior to commenting how superior the ACC car is because it is so smooth and calm and easy to drive...like a road car.
     
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  13. Gevatter

    Gevatter The James May of Simracing AMS2 Club Member

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    Well to be fair, the GT4 in ACC and the GT4 Supercup in AMS2 are close enough, but aren't completely the same. The Supercup has ~35 HP less for example. I'd expect a few small differences in handling as well.
    Ginetta :: Racing | Ginetta
     
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  14. newtonpg

    newtonpg Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @Beccobunsen
    Great info! Thank you very much!
    Some adverts however, just to complete you report.

    The official website is a bit (how can I say that) messy. It is ok to pick up the current data/info but very unfriendly to search the archives.
    V6 Renault engines had a short life (2012/13) and were changed to some V6-270cv until these days.
    Let me compliment Discord user lawgicau#2072 for his valuable quest on Spring Race specs as modded by Reiza and very useful for (RSTsoftware) telemetry.
    Wheelbase: 2.613m
    Track F/R: 1851mm-265mm = 1.586m
    Pirelli Pzero 265/645-R18

    Pirelli data sheet(*):
    working press: 1.9~2.2bar (GT) and 2.0~2.5bar (Tourism)
    working temp: ideal = (?), Inner-Outer< 20ºC, skewness (Rears/Fronts) < 25ºC
    (*) Don't know how Reiza mod/sim that.

    Spec info reported by the end of your post is for Sprint Race GT / 2020 (almost starting and hopefully to be added to AMS2).
    A new frame, new wheel drive, new tyres and P2P.
    Wheelbase has a typo and is probably 2.80m as measured on images.
    Bitola means track and 1.94m is an external measurement, so track is 1.94m-.260m = 1.68m
    YOKOHAMA 260/650 R18 A005-dry or A006-wet
     
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  15. Beccobunsen

    Beccobunsen Well-Known Member

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    Edited, and new video for Sprint Race Gt 2020
     
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  16. Beccobunsen

    Beccobunsen Well-Known Member

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    Brazil Stock Car 2020
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    WebSite : Stock Car - Corridas, Torneio, Pilotos, Carros e mais
    Yuotube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrkRKvn30Y7tzuyOBduzKXA
    Wiki-2020:2020 Stock Car Brasil Championship - Wikipedia
    Wiki-General:Stock Car Brasil - Wikipedia

    Videos:




    New Corolla:



    Rubens Barriquello testing [Pilot cam]


    Rubens Barriquello testing [Cockpit]


    Champions
    Año Piloto Automóvil
    1979
    Paulo Gomes Chevrolet Opala
    1980 Ingo Hoffmann Chevrolet Opala
    1981 Afonso Giaffone Chevrolet Opala
    1982 Avilo Alencar Jr. Chevrolet Opala
    1983 Paulo Gomes Chevrolet Opala
    1984 Paulo Gomes Chevrolet Opala
    1985 Ingo Hoffmann Chevrolet Opala
    1986 Marcos Gracia Chevrolet Opala
    1987 Zeca Giaffone Chevrolet Opala
    1988 Fábio Sotto Mayor Chevrolet Opala
    1989 Ingo Hoffmann Chevrolet Opala
    1990 Ingo Hoffmann Chevrolet Opala
    1991 Ingo Hoffmann / Ângelo Giombelli Chevrolet Opala
    1992 Ingo Hoffmann / Ângelo Giombelli Chevrolet Opala
    1993 Ingo Hoffmann / Ângelo Giombelli Chevrolet Opala
    1994 Ingo Hoffmann Chevrolet Omega
    1995 Paulo Gomes Chevrolet Omega
    1996 Ingo Hoffmann Chevrolet Omega
    1997 Ingo Hoffmann Chevrolet Omega
    1998 Ingo Hoffmann Chevrolet Omega
    1999 Chico Serra Chevrolet Omega
    2000 Chico Serra Chevrolet Vectra II
    2001 Chico Serra Chevrolet Vectra II
    2002 Ingo Hoffmann Chevrolet Vectra II
    2003 David Muffato Chevrolet Vectra II
    2004 Giuliano Losacco Chevrolet Astra
    2005 Giuliano Losacco Chevrolet Astra
    2006 Cacá Bueno Mitsubishi Lancer
    2007 Cacá Bueno Mitsubishi Lancer
    2008 Ricardo Maurício Peugeot 307
    2009 Cacá Bueno Peugeot 307
    2010 Max Wilson Chevrolet Vectra III
    2011 Cacá Bueno Peugeot 408
    2012 Cacá Bueno Chevrolet Sonic
    2013 Ricardo Maurício Chevrolet Sonic
    2014 Rubens Barrichello Chevrolet Sonic
    2015 Marcos Gomes Peugeot 408
    2016 Felipe Fraga Peugeot 408
    2017 Daniel Serra Chevrolet Cruze
    2018 Daniel Serra Chevrolet Cruze
    2019 Daniel Serra Chevrolet Cruze

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    Spec
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    [in progress]

    However, for both models, the V8 6.8 specification powered by ethanol is maintained, capable of yielding 460 hp of power and 61.2 kgfm of torque, without the override button being activated.

    The transmission will be sequential and automated with a double clutch with six gears, with the changes made manually through butterflies behind the steering wheel.

    Wheelbase changed from 2.80 m to 2.741 m. Change makes the car more agile in curves and less stable at high speed Stock Car Brasil / Instagram

    It is curious that the Japanese participation will be in charge of Toyota Motorsport of Argentina, which should also bring drivers from the neighboring country to compete with the Brazilians.

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    Plus : The meeting of the iconic Chevrolet Opala with the “Cruze” V8 of the current Stock Car
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  17. Micropitt

    Micropitt Mediocre driver doing mediocre laps AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks for posting @Beccobunsen Interesting how careful Rubens is driving that Toyota around the corners. Just like in AMS 2 :whistle:
     
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  18. lawgicau

    lawgicau Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I second that, it's a cool thread. Like many I've enjoyed learning about new cars and tracks, particularly the Brazilian ones. This adds to that.
     
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  19. Gordie

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    Those Sprint Race GTs look great and also this thread is a great idea, excellent resource :cool:
     
  20. Micropitt

    Micropitt Mediocre driver doing mediocre laps AMS2 Club Member

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    I have high hopes that we will get the Sprint Race GT cars. If they drive as good as the Sprint Race cars we already have......I'm sold :D
     
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