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Automobilista 2 April 2021 Development Update

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - News & Announcements' started by Renato Simioni, May 2, 2021.

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  1. Raceracerace

    Raceracerace Active Member

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    He reads it all. I read he thinks ffb is over rated. Now I've heard it all.

    And que all the people saying yeah yeah yeah race race race as long as he is enjoying it.

    Come on, guys. Of course as long as he is that's fine. That's not why he is here in the first place. I said what's the point of going hard on controller updates. That's the problem.

    Do me a favour and pop over to the nba2k and stick up for all the keyboard warriors. All 3 of them. That's what will make that game more rad.

    I'm sorry but it's hard to not ridicule the idea... Not the man.... The idea. He thinks now in his strawman argument I'm trying to deny his fun in life. It's at insane levels now
     
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  2. turtleCZ

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    Exactly, it's easier and more cool. I don't like easy paths :D

    Lets connect, gamepad bro!
     
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  3. turtleCZ

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    What?

    rFactor helpers are rather non sense so it would be nice to answer without 1250 paragraphs. Because it looks like you no nothing about gamepads. Then it makes sense... but surprise me!
     
  4. Raceracerace

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    What you, me, others not so much but this topic, is now doing, going around in circles is not useful.

    This game was clearly made with a wheel in mind. Deal with it. Yeah you can use a controller. No one is stopping you so don't moan about it
     
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    So you don't know anything about gamepad and rF2? That's fine but I would like know something new here. That's the reason why we talk here, I guess.

    If I play game for kids called rFactor 2 I would like to know it. Weird is I play rF2 the same as AMS2 without any problem. There is probably nothing helping you at all in both games. I could be wrong for sure. So surprise me again!
     
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    I would love to scratch your curiosity here but controllers are not exactly a mystery. I had to set them up to do emulation 12 years ago. It's not really a topic I find worthy of discussion.

    The barrow you're pushing is not going anywhere. Mate, rf2 was devised prior to 2011 and coded round then/started before then. That's a long time ago. If you think it's anywhere near the madness engine or should be vis a vis in features I've got a bridge to sell you in London.
     
  7. turtleCZ

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    :D AMS1 is very near rF2 and AMS2 tries to be near it too. Maybe rF2 has something right.

    Currently I can enjoy only three games. rF2 is the top, then is AMS1 and then AMS2 is WIP. I don't think this is coincidence. But I am OK with people who likes ACC style, I don't. It's playable but not enjoyable to me. Reiza's direction is rather clear even I am pretty new to AMS.

    And better controller support is important to be the same as great AMS1.
     
  8. DaVeX

    DaVeX AMSUnofficial Staff AMS2 Club Member

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    In the meantime Motorsport games bought S397 and rF2 IP because gamepad support and physics on rF2 is so great they want to use those features for their upcoming games like BTCC, LeMans ones.

    So please can we stop this nonsense now?
     
  9. turtleCZ

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    And KartKraft too. It will be big, I guess.
     
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    DaVeX AMSUnofficial Staff AMS2 Club Member

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    yeah Motorsport Games was quite aggressive on its acquisitions plans...
     
  11. Raceracerace

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    This is not the thing I am speaking for. That's beyond the scope of what I was saying. Both engines are development frameworks as well so it's only a matter of time and/or effort, inclination even, for better but maybe not exactly the same things in this regard.

    The question is, for controllers as it pertains to an update thread, why now. In terms of the overall project and it's stage is it really a necessity.

    Rf2 is going to require a bit of a spruce up if it's going to fly in the 2020s. No body knows how good a product based on that will be. Also there's always the question of what's available for sale and for how much and then what is willing to be done with it and for what purpose.

    I am not attached to the fortunes of the engines. It's misplaced. So what. The other one is under codemasters. Maybe they want parts of it. Other people are erroneously using how good an engine is to push some argument. I would never deem to argue for something so flubby. My parameters are pretty clear and their limits.
     
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  12. kkdrummer

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    Racing sims are games and gamepad should be supported, especially if the game are to come to consoles. I am pretty sure Reiza will work to improve gamepad in ams2. As for rf2 and other games, this is the Ams2 official forum and this threat is for AMS2 new content and developments.

    And just as a backup to my opinion on this, I have friends who play Iracing on the pad and they are support competitive and win races and finish on the podium more often than not. If Reiza can implement gamepad support properly, pad racers will be able to have fun and still beat steering wheel users.
     
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  13. Raceracerace

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    This was already at farcical levels. The ludicrous lines of debate are something else now. That's fine but who cares pardon my french. This is a laughable discussion if we're going to discuss the merits of a controller method in the first place. Last time I looked it's supported in ams2 and that is what I expect. It's not an existential issue so the poster above me, I retract slightly, was just misunderstanding.

    The game has bigger fish to fry. No one said wheel was superior. We just all recognize, even controller people of they ever bothered to use one, is just better. Hands down.

    But also I don't know why you speak of iracing. It's got a less than stellar handling model. Sure, everyone seems to know 10 game pad users. Lol.

    In all the videos on the new content and race tracks and cars not a single person is there lamenting this supposed lack of controller support. It's a figment of people's imagination. A vocal but very tiny minority. It's just an afterthought. 5 pages of controller threads and 150 or so in controllers. This is repeated all across the sim community.

    Controllers are NOT rallying, they're not rising in numbers, they're not kicking any goals, they're just a secondary control method. They deserve life but not more.

    If you pick up any sim, ever, this is the sentiment. If you can make do with a controller and succeed then that is great. If you enjoy it more power to you. I mean I don't mind it sometimes when I can't be bothered to plug in the keyboard and mouse or the wheel, but I'm dumb and it's different. But their explicit development in my opinion, deserves no special treatment so long as better things remain to be done.
     
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    Is there a safe word or something to make this stop?

    Yup.
     
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  15. turtleCZ

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    The problem is ME has not good enough gamepad support. Just few fixes to be the same as other sims.
     
  16. Raceracerace

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    The avenues for discussing the game are few. Look at what you're doing to fizzy, turtle!

    Look!

    But then, look at this

    But maybe they don't give af, turtle with all this kind of stuff. Maybe the new owners will think different.

    SLIGHTLY MAD STUDIOS GROUP - MADNESS ENGINE TECHNOLOGY.

    I think the quality or lack thereof of controllers is being overstated by turtle
     
  17. turtleCZ

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    This is old update thread nobody cares anymore. But we should move into pad thread where pro is waiting.

    BTW, is it commonly used English?
     
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  18. DaVeX

    DaVeX AMSUnofficial Staff AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks God for the "ignore" forum option...
     
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  19. Raceracerace

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    Hey turtle you know that a lot of those things are simply down to commercialisation. You'll be fine, man. Things will turn for you.
     
  20. turtleCZ

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    What? I love small studios with a talent and that's the reason Reiza could beat much bigger studios. rF2 is not built by big company with money. Small and great, that's how it is done. It's not about money but about creating awesome stuff without losing yourself.
     
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