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Automobilista 2 April 2023 Development Update

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - News & Announcements' started by Renato Simioni, Apr 30, 2023.

  1. Dady Cairo

    Dady Cairo "Son of Spartakus" and "Leisure Nostradamus" AMS2 Club Member

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    @paddler (i think was posted before)
    I can't do it and understand very little but I think it's better and easier explained here in the video.
     
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  2. McClutch

    McClutch Well-Known Member

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    Sung Chul Cha, old schoolmate, ist that you?
     
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  3. Marius H

    Marius H Internal Beta Tester Staff Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Have someone ever talked about how important it is that bigger feet makes you better at heel&toe? :oops: Also it helps if you've x-legs rather that o-legs.
     
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  4. Dylan Hale

    Dylan Hale Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    This is fake news. I wear a size 16 and my feet are too big lol
     
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  5. Burl

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    Adding to what this guy is saying, I'd love for the race HUD to include the damage done to your brakes and transmission. Running longer races, you do damage these things, but there's no way to know if or when you need to change them.
     
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  6. Gabriel "Pai" Legnini

    Gabriel "Pai" Legnini Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    As a size 13 feet, I can say it's completely backwards.
     
  7. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    I am not opposed to a display of these damage values, but a lack of information "until it is too late" is the case in real life racing. You find out your transmission is damaged when a gear won't change properly. You find out your brakes are malfunctioning when braking distances get longer or the pedal requires more pressure. Often this is accompanied by a trip off the edge of the track when it takes you by surprise. Sometimes into the barriers...
     
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  8. Burl

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    Oh I totally agree, but it mostly bothers me because if you don't set up a preset pit strategy, it automatically "fixes" these things, even when it shows 0 engine damage, so you have no idea how long your repairs in the pits are actually going to take. Obviously the answer is to just create a pit strategy that doesn't include transmission and brake repairs/replacements, but it'd just be a nice quality of life addition for the HUD, I think.
     
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  9. McClutch

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    I have some bad news for the Heel&Toe crowd, even if you buy a manual,the technique does not work with new cars. What I have experienced now with differnt models from 2014 onwards (Peugeot, Mini, BMW, VW) is that the ECU cuts fuel as soon as you tip the brake. Braking and keeping the engine revs up is impossible with stock ECU.

    In addition I think that most Sim pedals are extremely unsuited for the technique, way to big pedals in a narrow row, much to light resistance for gas and clutch. Need to turn the foot 90° and hit brake with the heel while in RL cars it is easier to brake with toe and throttle with heel at a 45° foot angle.

    BTW: even Walter Röhrl switched to left foot braking in the 80's as soon as it was possible with the pneumatic clutch on the Audi Quattro S1 (see pikes peak documentary) He always said you need to adapt to what is top tech to stay on top. Like he stated thathe stoped driving sideways when tyres got better and there was no more gain in drifting through corners on tarmac. (FIAT 131, Rally Monte Carlo)
     
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  10. Scraper

    Scraper Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Agreed, but real life also has mechanics to tell the driver afterwards that, yes, the brakes were damaged, etc.. Perhaps a sound effect could be added that indicates the brakes are about to fail? Or maybe an indication in the UI? I know the red colour of the brakes indicates excessive heat but there is nothing to indicate damage as such.

    The danger is that when brake failure occurs, the player does not realise it and assumes that AMS2's physics aren't very good. All the information has to come from the UI and audio - there is no post-mortem that reveals what caused the car to leave the track.
     
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  11. Turbo Granny

    Turbo Granny Well-Known Member

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    Some of the modern manual transmissions in sport cars have some kind of auto blip doesnt they? I think it can be turned off, but I dont know if it allows hill & toe when turned off. The Civic Type R for example, I dont understand very well how it works.
     
  12. Scar666

    Scar666 Zum Glück bin ich verrückt

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    Crew chief will tell you when your brakes are at 15% wear... And Simhub can also tell you this information...

    I'd love super informative huds in game as well... But there are options for now...
     
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  13. Turbo Granny

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    If anyone is interested Brasil Endurance second round is live now.
     
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  14. Pandytim99

    Pandytim99 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Lets hope the Sigma do good this time
     
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  15. Turbo Granny

    Turbo Granny Well-Known Member

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    It has the new record for this track, fast it is, just need to be reliable too.
     
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  16. Renato Simioni

    Renato Simioni Administrator Staff Member

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    There are some updates planned for V1.5, but I don´t think it fundamentally changes the look of the GUI - we find it to pretty pretty streamlined and purposeful as it is. Is it the looks that make it seem outdated to you, could you reference one that you find more appeasing?
     
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  17. Dolph

    Dolph Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Interesting. I rather find the rFactor2, AC menus looking old.

    The rFactor and F1 22 menus are also very cluttered and confusing.

    I wouldn't have thought neither of those things about AMS2.
     
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  18. Periophtalmus Spintirus

    Periophtalmus Spintirus [3DP]BumbleBee AMS2 Club Member

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    I'd prefer something like AMS1 style.
    Still like it the most among all others... :)
     
  19. Ettore

    Ettore Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Especially the racing environment UI in RF2 seems older than that of GT Sport Cars in the beginning of the 2000s
     
  20. sgsfabiano

    sgsfabiano Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Jokes aside, adding the graph would make me satisfied enough!
     
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