Automobilista 2 April 2023 Development Update

Wet weather effects in AMS2 are great...

The AI ruins anything that isn't a sprint race in the dry... But wet weather racing online in AMS2 is epic...

The only complaint I have about it is that the aquaplaning effect when 2 tyres are in a puddle is a little overstated... When all 4 are in a puddle it seems accurate, but when 2 tyres are in a puddle it seems far too violent when 2 tyres are still connected to the road outside of the puddle or even the loaded side...

 

Actually 2 tires only in a puddle is the most undrivable condition because it basically provides a very violent surge in yaw that is almost always uncontrollable. Even in a normal highway. Never drive close to the edge of the highway if there is chance of significant puddles.

 

You can do pretty cool things even with half the cylinders and a meager 2.5L... Just sayin'

 

Interesting... The desert doesn't afford the opportunities to learn these things... It does make sense from a physics standpoint...

It seems a little unnatural from the onboard footage I've seen is what I'm going off of... It seems that most race rain tyres have the grip to compensate when 1 side is gripped up... A little slide is caused but there's enough grip that once the tyres that are in the puddle are out the car is controllable...

 

YES PLEASE! My pants gets sticky just watching those beauties. Beats every single modern tin top in my book.

 

I wasn't saying that the effect was wrong in it's theory... Just that it felt a little saturated or inflated in that specific scenario... All 4 wheels feels and looks right, 2 wheels is a little stronger than I expected it be...

I will never discount the raw skills of the drivers who do it best and make it look easy on the on board videos we get... Nor the engineers behind the set ups that make the cars easier to control... Which does make it harder to tell... So it catches out this sim racer more often than it does them that's for sure...

 

Aquaplaning feels pretty much bang on to me , it’s a pretty common occurrence when in rains on our NZ roads .

 

Anyone know how to get simhub working in VR mode with steam VR. None of my widgets appear in VR only in the onscreen version.

 

Using Crewchief allows to display an overlay in vr which can be a simhub widget window or any window or screen you want.

 

Yeah, the aquaplaning is pretty acurate on the game compared to how I have felt it in real life, the steering wheel will go numb and you are basically a passenger, pretty scary.

In my opinion after this last update the wet driving is much much better, at least on the F-Vintages, no need for TC in my case to keep up with the AI, I have had to increase their difficulty now, its great!
In fact my biggest complaint now is that the AI cannot manuever the big big puddles and they lose a lot of time or spin.

 

I agree. I've tried it a couple of times too. You have about as much control as you have on a bum slider on ice. If you drive a manual you can gently use the clutch and maybe regain some grip as even a bit of engine breaking can rob you the last bit of traction you may have.

 

I guess I'll try to race in the rain then, I had given up on it.

 

I didn’t try rain on new update yet, but for me, even if the puddles and aquaplaning effect is really well done, what is immersion breaker in the rain is that there’s no simulation of the lack of grip if we use the dry line when raining. Normally the driver needs to adapt braking and corner entry acceleration avoiding dry line at all costs, but for me it looks like in AMS2 when it’s raining you can just keep doing the exact dry lines and just avoid the puddles and it’s all good. Since the rain visually effects are so good, it looks a bit of a waste to not have the wet / dry line implemented. Most probably because this would need to be done on a hundred different layouts and probably there’s not enough manpower to do that properly. I also imagine most people race on dry most of the time ( at least on multiplayer), so maybe it’s not worth the effort for Reiza. But I would love it. If they could only try to implement this in some of the most rainy circuits (like when they started the Advanced damage model on some cars), that would be a great addition to immersion.

 

So do you guys feel any difference between the racing line and off the racing line in wet conditions? Do you actively go off the racing line to get grip?

Wet racing is not just about avoiding puddles.

 

Thats some of the points that the driver in the video made with a lot of focus on aquaplaning

and the "wet lines" need to be improved as "rubbered" asphalt became very slippery on the wet, hence why the wet lines avoid in many cases the "dry lines"

 

That's not simulated on the game, but in real life drivers dont always use a different line on wet conditions, in varies track by track and corner by corner.
They almost always avoid the white lines, but I have seen hundreds of F1 races and they use the dry line on the wet more often than using a different line, Fuji 2007 is a good example.

 

Maybe the Crown Range between QT and Wanaka will be added as a track, conditions get sketchy up there, great fun to drive though. =)