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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    No damping in the game on my V400 this does the file for you. The file contains the recommended in-game settings. But with defaults you need damping to reduce the oscillations and the oscillation of the wheel, but unfortunately it cannot be eliminated completely

    However, I have to correct my statement a little with the damping at defaults. Maybe things are different now with the current beta. But since I don't have a beta, the damping on my current Ams2 without beta is different than it should be. The more damping in the game, the more oscillations and vibrations there will be
     
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  2. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    My file doesn't use damping (set to 0).

    I agree with your observations and will try to implement a relax curve in front tyres fit curve.
    Right now, after adjusting my v5 to fit GT cars to 'perfection', I'm having trouble dealing with high G forces of high end formulas (F1, Indy).
    Well, more tests I guess...
     
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  3. Rivanov

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    I'm using GT DD Pro 8Nm. I guess file 3 (6-7Nm) is the "best" file for this wheelbase?
     
  4. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Hello Rivanov!
    This depends very much on the personal taste of the user. There are people who like to have greater strength and then there are people who would like to feel less strength. In your example with 8Nm Base I would test both files 6-7Nm and 8-9Nm . The 6-7Nm file will have more forces and be stronger. The 8-9Nm file will have less force and be weaker. So you can choose it according to your taste
     
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  5. Dainamo

    Dainamo Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    By far the best Custom FFB file right now. Using an 8nm CSL DD.

    My biggest issue with the FFB in AMS2 is the lack of sensation of actual tire grip, at medium to lower to speeds like corner exit, I dont get a sense that the tires are touching the ground, it makes cars feel like they're skating across the ground. This FFB file has been the closest in terms of getting rid of that sensation (or lack thereof). It's not perfect, but definitely the best thus far. The feeling of load and the road texture is really great as well. Awesome work!
     
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  6. Rivanov

    Rivanov New Member

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    Can you provide your Fanalab settings for you CSL DD 8Nm that you use with this Custom FFB profile?
     
  7. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Well I finally upgraded to a DD base - a Moza r12. It's a bittersweet upgrade because I absolutely love my Csw 2.5 such a great base but I just felt the time is right, need more power and it's an early birthday/xmas present to myself.
    Not sure if I can put this here but if anyone wants a mint condition Csw 2.5 in the uk pm me.
     
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  8. dryheat94

    dryheat94 Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Which must mean I am the last of a dying breed. Long live the CSW 2.5, the best belt base ever made.
     
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  9. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I know, it's a classic. And some files here @Karsten Hvidberg @Danielkart etc have really made it shine. I just need more force in places like Eau Rouge etc.
    I could have stayed with Fanatec but the bases are so heavy for my rig, this one is tiny.
    And it will see me out if it keeps working
     
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  10. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Perfect buddy, congratulations on your new base;)
     
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  11. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks mate, gonna set it up tomorrow.
     
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  12. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    It's a classic without a doubt, I get all the information I need from it, even feel the marbles off the racing line in corners it's insane. I'm just missing that extra "oomph".
     
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  13. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    In my opinion, this base is one of the best or even the best belt base that has ever existed. I had the opportunity to test this with a friend years ago. People will continue to enjoy it
     
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  14. dryheat94

    dryheat94 Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I'll probably pass on before my CSW 2.5 does. A solid workhorse. As long as I don't try a DD, I'll never know what I'm missing. The tech has moved so fast over the last 3 years. Not being in a rush to upgrade has served my wallet well so far.
     
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  15. Danielkart

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    You can also achieve a fantastic FFB with your Csw 2.5. My customs for various bases (including weak ones) show me that a lot of people still have such bases. My feeling tells me that it will stay that way for another 2 or 3 years. In the beginning, a dd can actually be very unusual and disappointing if you've had a belt base for a long time and you've gotten used to these feelings. But the more time you spend with it, the more you will appreciate a dd
     
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  16. ATrainedMonkey

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    Sounds very interesting, looking forward to trying it once you have it ready to share! I am now testing a bit the new wheel on Assetto Corsa, trying to find good settings there but I will be back in AMS2 next

    Regarding the MOZA I must say I am slowly getting more used to it, there are so many settings. Started to test more with the BASE FFB curve, also that helps to get a bit more sensation of loss of grip. Really nice wheel indeed!

    Nice to see more MOZA users, I also switched recently curious to see what are your feelings/ firs impressions about it, I got an R9 still getting used to it but the feeling with it is improving.
     
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  17. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    Let me ask you something....
    Have you tried to move the seat to an unrealistic (forward) position and see what you get (FFB and car rotation feeling wise)?
    (for instance, pick the F3 car, drive it for a lap or two and then move the seat to +100 forward, where your basically driving on the bonnet, drive again...)
     
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  18. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    Right now, I'm still using my settings at default (neutral) but many say Moza wheelbases require a little more in-game filtering that the majority, meaning the driver/firmware let the signal go through without many changes (I can be wrong, but that's my suspicion).
    Thrustmaster made a good job here but then the belt construction imposes some limitations on usable frequency spectrum (a belt driven wheel can take as much force as we want, but belts would be expensive and there's always a dynamic limitation there - DD wheels don't have this problem to begin with but can feel harsh, unnatural)

    After that, I'll try to do some filtering, perhaps reducing the 100Hz component a bit (that starts to be music, not FFB kind of output ;)).
     
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  19. kivipallur1

    kivipallur1 Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Congratulations on your purchase! But it wasn't what I needed to know at the moment, though. :D Because of this black friday thingy, one local reseller near me has r12 with really good price and now I'm tempted to pull the trigger more than ever. BUUUT then again I'm not sure I'm ready to part ways with my good friend TS-PC racer and 3 TM wheels yet... decisions, decisions...
     
  20. Michael3

    Michael3 Active Member

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    How is that the case? The hardware is a motor that turns one way or the other.
    There's not some magic FFB in the future.

    They're selling marketing terms now. Fullforce...trueforce....MEGAforce....meaningless twaddle.
     
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