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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. audio.pizarro

    audio.pizarro New Member

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    Nope, can't find it there. They always posted in this thread but the last post I could find was in September 2022.
     
  2. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    With my files (and defaults ones), GAIN slider can be any value you want, no impact of FFB other than amplitude ("strenght"). Simply a gain function.

    My considerations about @Danielkart 's files was just as a reminder that premise applies to his files (and others from the same root), by design (it's not a fault or vice).
    Although, it's not a general rule and doesn't apply to default profiles or other custom files.

    But even with Daniel's files, it's only a matter of changing the line:
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    (df_compression               (power (max 0 (* (/ 1 0.6) (- gain2 0.4))) 1.5))    #calculated range 0-1. 0 is result for gain 0-40%. This will keep DD bases at compression of 0, when using high output on the hardware.
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    (df_compression               (power (max 0 (* (/ 1 0.6) (- 0.62 0.4))) 1.5))    #calculated range 0-1. 0 is result for gain 0-40%. This will keep DD bases at compression of 0, when using high output on the hardware.
    (replace "gain2" with "0.62", as Daniel recommends that slider at 62, will free up GAIN from this "limiting" factor)

    This is a graphical representation of df_compression function.
    As you can see, a small change in gain produces a big change on the transfer function.

    upload_2023-12-17_18-35-14.png
     
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  3. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    As I have already described above, there are countless ways to combine the custom files and the base settings and the in-game settings. It would confuse people who are used to my customs and it's my way of sorting the files just like you have your way of sorting it. For me personally it is easiest to increase or reduce the gain directly on the base while driving and in the end it is the same as yours. In addition, these are recommendations from me and that doesn't mean that there can be another way. And if a user doesn't want it that way, he can set up the controller to his liking without having to change anything in the custom file
     
  4. deekracer

    deekracer Active Member

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    After testing, I prefer your latest custom ffb. It is SOOO alive. I enjoy how input sensitive it is. The wheel reacts to acceleration or braking and then I react to what the wheel does. It all feels very intuitive. It is totally different way of driving. I do try with levels off ffb in the game or through SimPro manager; also experimenting with various steering angles; the 2002 ti, for instance, is more responsive at 1080 from what I can tell.
    I loved the 1.5.3 update but your latest offering turns into a totally different sim. Makes me want to try just about every car/track combo I can imagine, but the twisty, bumpy ones are becoming my favorite using your ffb. Curious to hear if you are others experience the same input responiveness I'm getting.
     
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  5. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    im interested to hear what wheel combo you’re running .

    my rig has Just had a massive makeover, including replacing my old custom adapted Thrustmaster 28cm plastic rim , with a proper solid Simagic GTS 30cm rim .
    The difference between the two rims and the feel is quite a lot. so I’m playing around with a few things in the file while I’m trying to tune my fov and other elements ( including myself back into racing after a month off )

    the old mostly hollow TM wheel was over sensitive to details , than what a solid high quality wheel is . It’s not at all surprising, but the magnitude of the difference is more than expected, and the muscle memory of a larger wheel also takes some getting use too.
     
  6. RDEstevao

    RDEstevao New Member

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    Hi guys!
    First of all, thanks for all your work guys.
    But... I am so confused what to use! I have a new wheel, Moza R9, anyone with the same wheel could give an opinion on which profile they find it "better" for this wheel?
    I know that in the end is a personal preference, but some first guideline would be much appreciated!
    Thanks!
     
  7. Rocket455Man [FIN]

    Rocket455Man [FIN] New Member

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    When I upgraded my tm stock 28 cm rim to 33 cm sparco mod, I got much better feeling.

    That 28 cm rim feeled like toy car.
     
  8. Xzanman

    Xzanman Active Member

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    Kuku maddogs (in the post above yours) file is a good place to start, the new one from Karsten (a few pages back) is also excellent. try a few and see what you like. but give each one a good few hours even of it feels odd to start, it takes awhile to adjust to each one.
     
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  9. RDEstevao

    RDEstevao New Member

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    Thanks a lot for your reply!
    I will do as you say and give some time to each. In the past I used Kuku's one and really liked it, but before posting my previous message, I did search for his file and I went some pages back and have not find his file :/
    Need to search more.
    Thanks mate!
     
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  10. Xzanman

    Xzanman Active Member

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    Kuku's file is in his signature of each of his post. It may not show if your looking on certain browsers. It is also on Racedepartment.
     
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  11. RDEstevao

    RDEstevao New Member

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    Thanks a lot man! :)
     
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  13. RDEstevao

    RDEstevao New Member

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    That one I have found, thanks! Went to look for it when you talked about it in your first reply. Haven't test it yet thought.
    I was trying Kuku's one, and it's nice, but until now it still did not clicked with me.
    If I have the time, tomorrow I will try that one :)
     
  14. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Try this post. It has all the Custom FFB files in one zip file. FFB is a very personal thing. What someone may love, another will be less than happy with. Best to try them and see what clicks with you.
    Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations
     
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  15. RDEstevao

    RDEstevao New Member

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    Wow, that is cool! And I see it keeps being edited, so it gets updated, very nice!
    Thks for it friend!
    You guys are being very helpefull, now it is basically up to me!
    Many thanks all and happy Christmas!
     
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  16. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    So I finally got my new moza motherboard and have spent all day tuning Karstens latest file to my taste. There are things I like in Danielkarts files (road feel), and things I like in Karstens files (steering), so I made a tune of the two. It is the Hybrid File V1.
     

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  17. RDEstevao

    RDEstevao New Member

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    Damn, I mostly used yours on my T300RS. I have my Moza R9 for less then 1 week now, and now you have a Moza also... What a beautiful coincidence, luck is on my side for sure! :D
    Thanks a lot for your sharing and work!
     
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  18. Skem88

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    @Alegunner68
    I'm new here, where do you get all the files from? Is there a central repository?

    Thanks for posting yours. Would help to know what wheel base you use.
     
  19. RDEstevao

    RDEstevao New Member

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    Check Michael Enright post 4 above yours.
    He shared a link to a post where a guy have made a zip file with most of the available profiles.
     
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  20. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    It's the Moza R12. And the file was Karstens from a couple or a few pages ago.
     
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