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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Jonas Brüggemann

    Jonas Brüggemann New Member

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    Hello. When you use this V70 Plus file for your Simucube 2 Pro, what settings do you have in your True Drive?
    What settings in Gain, FX and damping do you have in game?

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  2. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    The True Drive settings and in-game settings can be found described in the file. The V70 plus is an older file from me, the biggest difference is the use of damping and friction on the base ;)
     
  3. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    What's new:
    • Better near-center load feeling
    • New adhesion/grip formulas
    • Introduced tyre stretch component
    • Introduced offroad texture (canned effect)
    • Reintroduced scrub effects
    • Overall adjustments in parameters weights
    Still to improve/implement:
    • (no roadmap)
     
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  4. john Ellis

    john Ellis The Rectifier of Names AMS2 Club Member

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    The Custom FFB Collection v2.7 is uploaded. Please note that I took the opportunity to restructure many of the previous versions into author-specific archives; any folder with a "Z-Archive" prefix contains subfolders (any of these subfolders can be copied to main folder for easy JSGME activation). All folders without the Z-Appendix prefix are JSGME-ready.
     
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  5. Palerider

    Palerider New Member

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    Just want to add, Kuku Revival also feels amazing on T300. In my initial testing of all the customs I hadn't realised in game damper slider (in Kuku Revival) is used to adjust suspension feel so I hadn't given it a proper try. I have tweaked some values in the file itself (damper to 0.1 or off, increased oversteer scale and reduced some curb settings and some effects settings). Using 60/0/35/45 in game feels amazing with all vehicle categories.

    Question regarding custom parameters:
    I turned all # Road features settings and all # Effect scales to 0 and I still get vibration when vehicle moves. This is controlled by FX slider in game. Anyone got any idea what other parameter to change? Its not engine_scale_at_speed nor texture_scale as they both 0. My alternative is to increase desirable effects in file and set a low FX slider to not feel this constant vibe.

    EDIT: it was road_rolling_slip_feel. set it to 0 as it seems to only be referenced once under road effect
     
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  6. Jonas Brüggemann

    Jonas Brüggemann New Member

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    Oh, thanks, mind if I ask what is the newest file to use?
     
  7. Lab Pong

    Lab Pong OG Sim'er

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    Jonas, I have tried many of the simucube paddock profiles, not many were that great I found. Most amounted to way too much ffb. But there are a few that were fairly good. I ended up modifying one of Daniel Morad's iracing profiles.

    For the custom file, I like DanielKart V300. He has a few diff ones that are more specifically for the SC2P as he uses that wheel base. But I found I liked the stock V300 file to feel the best.

    My simucube base settings use a range of gain from 70-100, and usually around 70-80 on most cars. The in game setting for gain is very very low compared to what is instructed to use. Instructions say to set in game at about 60-65....but I cant hardly turn the wheel...lol My in game gain is 16-18 only.

    My simucube base settings.
    https://i.ibb.co/CP2xBgd/Tweaker-ams2.jpg

    My in-game settings for Custom ffb file (with base gain at 80%):
    Gain: 16-20 (currently 16)
    LFB: 0
    FX: 16-24 (currently 20)
    Damping: 0
    Spring: 0

    Hope this gets you close....GL.
     
  8. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Page 373 first post. This is the latest file specifically tailored to Simucube 2 Pro
     
  9. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    For SimuCube2 users: I actually had good results using Daniel Morad's SC2 settings (for iRacing) where he applied a very generous amount (15% or more) of Static Force Reduction while using AMS2 Default ffb. I had to increase Damping / power and ULLM in TD to compensate but, the results were impressive in terms of the increased sense of understeer in ffb. It's not something I would normally expect to produce such effect but, found it very interesting. I think it does demonstrate how much untapped potential exists in TD settings.

    The downside to that approach being somewhat inconsistent results among different cars in AMS2 (seems to favor HDF cars) but, I find it worth exploring with other titles where there is little-to-no feedback during understeer (front grip loss).

    Best results (overall) in AMS2 for me still come with a custom ffb file. I find the default presets work well in terms of providing the fundamentals in ffb although, Damping needs to be well tuned.
     
  10. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    I feel the same, I still find the best results with the customs. If one day it's the default, I'll switch immediately. I think there are thousands of different opinions and personal preferences in the FFB. And it's exactly the same with the settings on a base. In addition, there are more and more different bases, all of which process and output the forces very differently. And the hardware is getting bigger and bigger and can change the experience enormously.
    Ams2 has this huge variety of cars, it's not just GT3 cars or Formula 1, that's why I love this simulation. That's why for me it always involves certain compromises. I want something that works for everything and not just GT3 cars. These differences between the cars make it impossible for everything to work 100%. But you can try to make this range narrower with compromises and various personal adjustments until the result is right for you
     
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  11. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I think I read in one of @Danielkart post, that you set in game around that 60 mark, and change base settings to suit the feeling of weight you like. Is that correct @Danielkart ?
     
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    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Yes, Michael, that’s it. If you reduce the gain in the game that low (16-18) almost all FFB will disappear.
     
  13. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I just did a little experiment. First I set AMS2 at 62 Gain and in SimPro Manager I ended up at around 45 to get the weight I like. Then I tried the opposite. SimPro at 90 and AMS2 at 25. I was so surprised how much livelier the wheel felt and how much more of the track details I could feel when I did the opposite to what it says in your file. Much more when SimPro was on 90 and AMS2 on 25. Very strange. I will try it like this for awhile. Thanks for the file.
     
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  14. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Many roads lead to Rome ;) As I said recently there are thousands of opinions and personal preferences. Everyone should go their own way
    There are also different filter settings for each base and can completely change the result. My premise is to use as few of them as possible. Other users want exactly the opposite and feel good about it. That's why it's important to follow your own feelings and your personal sweet spot
     
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  15. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I have no filters on, the same as you. Much better as far as I am concerned too.
     
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  16. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys!

    Shortly before the New Year I will post you my new personal custom file V600 optimized for Simucube 2 Pro.The file is also suitable for other bases from around 9Nm.

    In the new year I will post you all the other 8 files for the different powers and bases that will all be based on this V600 Custom and there will also be further information about it.

    Until then, I wish you all a happy new year with good health:)


    Daniel's personal custom file V600 optimized for Simucube 2:
     

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  17. Shark

    Shark New Member

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    Always appreciated! Tried this one and it's my favorite from you to date. Going to be hard to choose between this one and kuku's revival for the mainstay. I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to tweaking the FFB files myself. If I thought the centering/damping force was a little weak, is there any variable you would recommend messing with in the file? Steering just feels a little "loose" for my tastes in the initial 25'ish degrees of rotation. Also curious if there's a variable that would effect the resistance getting close to the steering/soft lock. Always feels a little too hard to get from ~150 degrees to 180 degrees. Appreciate any insight you're willing to break off for me!
     
  18. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Increase the damping and friction on the base according to your personal taste ;)
     
  19. Shark

    Shark New Member

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    Figured that might be the recommended approach. Helps some, hurts in other ways. Life remains a game of compromises yet again despite my attempts to have my cake and eat it too. Thanks again for the always great profiles and Happy New Year!!!
     
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  20. Gianmarco Fiduci

    Gianmarco Fiduci Member

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    Can anyone with a VRS Direct Force Pro base redirect me to an FFB file tailored for that wheel base?
     

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