Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

I have a logitech 923 and looking to edit the shift effect FFB setting in a custom file. Which parameters would allow me to increase the FFB for a shift up and down effect?

 

Hi, any recommendations for Fanatec DD1, custom file or Default+ profile and wheelbase settings?

 

Yes - Use this, turn per car gain to about 50.

 

curiosity got the better of me , and i tried out this cut down file and think it’s got some really good steering rack feel, and felt intuitive ( it doesn’t feel that far removes from what i have with my custom) , but it needs to be offset with some control of wheel speed and in software filters on my DD, it’s great until you get into oversteer or out of control situations , as the wheel returns far to quickly and with unlimited power.

i found myself immediately looking to add damping and or friction in software and trying to lower wheel speed to try and contain the forces as they have the potential to snap thumbs .

Damping is generally a mechanism for adding resistance to forces , giving them something to work or push against , I don’t believe that the damper reiza uses masks and details in my experience. nothing that can’t be restored by increasing other fx etc. but the speed of the wheel is more realistic with damping ,and safer which is something they have to be mindful of im sure.

So i think there’s some potential for some using weaker wheels base or naturally damped belt wheels etc to get great feedback from this file choice , but needs to come with a public safety message.
if i didn’t already have my own custom tuned rfuktor file i would probably use this as a base to configure my wheel base too with some time spent on filters.

 

Thank you, you mean 50 in individual ffb car settings for every car? Can you please give me the settings for the wheelbase?

 

Set gain to 100, then in controls set an FFB Gain + and - key, use the - key to set it to 50.

 

FFB is a very personal thing, everyone likes different things.
But I'm very happy with Maurice from Fanatec's profiles combined with a custom FFB file.

Link to profile download (you might need an account on the Fanatec forums):
https://forum.fanatec.com/uploads/722/4X1Y9RYY3UKI.zip

The .zip file contains a custom FFB file, but I prefer to use Kuku's latest:
AMS2 Custom FFB - Gt rFuktor V1 - By Kuku

 

Thank you, i will try it. Actually i do like a lot the default+ profile but when i put the FFB gain to about 10Nm whatever i tried including dampening in game and on fanatec driver side in high speeds over 130 - 140km i have major oscillations if i take of my hands of the wheel

 

I believe this is not the best way to do it.
We set the GAIN so most cars stay at around 100% vehicle-specific FFB, then we fine tune adjust the later not to clip (too much).
Both setting are just multiplier unless it's a custom file that uses GAIN to do other things other than gain itself.

 

Am gutted mate!

I've always used your files, without them I wouldn't still be playing this game and Reiza wouldn't have got more money out of me for their DLC's! It's sad that you'll no longer be updating your FFB files but understand people move on.

Thank you sincerely to help me enjoy this game more than I ever thought I could.

If you ever think about posting a Eureka file that you create please don't have second thoughts and post the damn thing .

Thank you, glhf.

(now I hope Reiza fixes the VR stuttering introduced on the latest update in some HMD's)

 

Some custom files cause a lot of oscillations, while others don’t. I have given up trying to get rid of it. If I like a file, and it causes oscillations, I just keep my hands on the wheel

 

In theory, would it be possible to add some brake feel to the file?

 

i felt like there was a little brake feel naturally but need to test some more. Only managed to test a couple of different cars , they kinda felt the same as each other outside of overall strength. so need to see if it offers the same level of variety in feel between different cars .

 

tried the rack force custom, feels incredible! very communicative. tried gt3, formula and lmdh cars. would love to see wheel speed dampened a bit when losing the car, has a pretty savage snap back. i made the change @Xzanman suggested to help with grainyness but also had to add some interplolation filter on the wb. i reckon a couple of tweaks on this and it is the holy grail custom

 

This is happening and with the default+ profile also? Whatever settings i tried everything over about 8nm i have major oscillations

 

Thanks for reaching out!

Yes I agree with you that there are times during heavy oversteer the wheel snaps back too strong, generally had that issue in AMS 2 with other profiles, but like you said some custom files probably sort that out.

I'm running my simucube 2 at around 12-14 nm so it doesn't bother me too much when it happens but like someone else mentioned, maybe there is a happy medium that one can find in these files to help with this issue.

Thanks!

 

It's been a while since I used default or default+, but if I remember correctly you can use a combination of damping, natural friction and inertia in Fanalab to help with oscillations.
Have a look at Maurice's profiles if you haven't for examples. Combined with the custom FFB he provides with the profiles my DD1 was almost free of oscillations.
Damping in the in-game FFB settings have sometimes made oscillations worse on my DD1 for some reason...

 

Shout-out to Joaquim FFB file.

 

What we have here is a stone soup effect . We start with something simple and them we add things to it until it is no longer recognizable, but still there (how about brakes? And remove/add some kerb effects? And damping? And treating small details differently?...etc.)

Several custom files already use arm_force (a vector of internal front suspension forces over the steering wheel) as the main factor to get front axle info. Mine is in that line.
Then we add something missing...

This code (from the @Alex291190 file):

Code:

#Some constants being defined, not really sure what all this does.
#Looks like it's basically setting up the raw physics forces to be manipulated and spat out as FFB.

#Defining some kind of maximum force
(max_overall_force 11500.0)

#Calculating the reciprocal of the above
(recip_force ( / 1.0 max_overall_force))

#No idea, looks like it's calculating some kind of damping/smoothing value based on a preexisting ingame variable
(mass_damper ( * M_smooth_samples 0.0))

#Using the above to apply some smoothing?
(arm_force_smooth ( spring arm_force 0 0.0 mass_damper))
(arm_force (if M_smooth_samples arm_force_smooth arm_force))

#Scaling the output of the physics engine based on physics force output?
#Looks like the end result is the 'rack' variable which seems to be our force at the rack.
(rack_scaled ( * arm_force ( / max_overall_force M_max_force_at_rack)))
(rack_scaled ( * rack_scaled recip_force))
(rack rack_scaled)

Can be simply replaced by:

Code:

(rack (/ arm_force M_max_force_at_rack))

which normalizes tierods forces for each car (is my believe M_max_force_at_rack has a different value for each car). That's it! My file also does this before the start of post-processing.

If someone want to add effects to @Alex291190 file, just look at "JP's Effects" section of my file and be inspired .
Just use this line before:

Code:

(rack_coarse_lfb rack)

and this line after:

Code:

(rack rack_coarse_lfb)

 

I have the new sc dd 12 nm what are good custom profiles with new ams2 update
i use the fanatec maurice custom file it is the latest version of it
can i use the latest kuku"s file and what are the in game settings? now i have gain 38 lx 10 and damping 0 is that correct?