Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Hey,
I changed the following setting which fixed the issue as suggested and feels much better.
however do you see anything fundamentally wrong with using your file and only changing these 2 values to:

(front_griploss_scale 0.7
(rear_griploss_scale 1.4

Im tempted to go to as both feel different for reasons, but do see/feel any issues with such numbers?

(front_griploss_scale 0.75
(rear_griploss_scale 1.0

Thanks again, i honestly cant not get used to any other file now i use this, it feel so natural, informative and intuitive. Even under braking i can feel the wheel load up and resist, i dont get this on any other file, amazing!

 

New updated Moza R5 custom FFB settings.
Using rFuktor 5013 https://forum.reizastudios.com/attachments/ffb_custom_settings-5-0-1-3-txt.19424/
I just reduced "(kerbs_surface_scale 3.0)"
Originally the value was at 5.0 which was way too much, affecting feedback going over curbs making the wheel shake like crazy. I believe at 3.0 it is just right.

 

Don't get me wrong, this is just some feedback.
Your settings are very strange and will give you practically no feedback from the force feedback. Turn on the force feedback graph, and you'll see what I mean. Like I said, this isn't meant as criticism, and if you like it this way, then that's fine.

 

What line on the force feedback graph should i follow ? Because i did multiple races like this recently and was getting a LOT of feedback actually.

 

Activate the FFB widget in-game so you can see what the FFB is doing. I haven't tested your settings, but I can see them. With 16 gain in-game and your 5Nm base, you'll get almost no FFB feedback. You'll probably only get 2Nm or even less power from your base. Your base settings are also unusual.

 

Glad you like the file and that you are tuning it to your tastes, that was the main idea behind the file. There will never be one perfect FFB file for everyone, but I'm trying to make my one simpler for people to tweak themselves.

Those values for griploss look absolutely fine, perfectly within normal parameters. It's sometimes useful to temporarily set them, at zero or crazy levels such as 10.0 just to get a feel for exactly how they affect the feel of the FFB. Some of the adjustable parameters make quite a big difference within a 0 to 0.5 range, others can be adjusted by much more, they have different sensitivities.

 

I tested your settings and, as feared, there is practically no "good force feedback."
By good force feedback, I mean the force feedback in the game AMS2. Yes, you feel force feedback, but it comes almost exclusively from your base model and the in-game "FX" setting. The various parameters (controls) of your base model can influence the steering feel and the forces acting upon it. Damping, friction, inertia... these factors cause the changes and generally serve to regulate or optimize the force feedback in a simulation (ideally to an absolute minimum). Unfortunately, this has practically nothing to do with the force feedback of AMS2 or any other simulation (clearly visible in the force feedback diagram). What you felt were these parameter settings of your base model plus the "FX" effects in the game. I hope I've made it a bit clearer. Switching from a "simple belt drive" to a "more complex direct drive" can be both a blessing and a curse. Simply try to achieve the most homogeneous and consistent force feedback possible using this force feedback diagram, or try using Reiza's default settings.

 

i'm still using Karstens (Tribute) latest ffb file, its so informative...after several updates too

 

After 4 years on a T300 moving to a Direct Drive is only a curse i would say because whatever i was trying with Default or Default+ gave me nothing from the feedback that i needed. No brake feel and nothing where the limit before a spin exists no matter what i set.

Only with these settings was i able to find something that is what i felt with the T300 plus extra feel of even the smallest road details. I have no idea what else should i look for or why should i be looking for something else. I was not able to find any recommended Moza R5 settings anywhere on the internet either.

I checked the FFB graph but i still do not know what i am looking at here.

 

Nice, I think your file perfectly suits my needs (with only this part adjusted)
I get great ffb, braking ffb, steering, road feel, the only thing i personally didn't like is the wheel going light when under steering, reducing those numbers seem to have helped reduce that sensation.

Great file and thanks for the assistance.

 

Yes, that's exactly the problem, quite obvious. I recommend you familiarize yourself with it a bit, especially if you plan to work with custom files. But if you're happy with it and like it the way it is, then there's no reason to change anything. Ultimately, it's your decision; I just wanted to bring it to your attention.

 

anywhere on the internet? just check my post #10150 in previous page, mate. try everything as said there and report back please. you will be suprised

 

This file is 99 % based on rurEEE's raw rack force file.

I just slightly modified M_smooth_samples and mass_damper

Feels a lot like ACC ffb. Not everyone's taste, but i love it.

With this file and turning steering wheel radius degrees in car setup to smallest possible number transforms the experience for me.
Feels like "ACC lite", but with way more content and more forgiving handling.

 

Hi everyone,
I'm a sim racing beginner and completely lost in the jungle of file names. I'm using a Thrustmaster T300 and wanted to ask if it's even worth trying Daniel's FFB custom settings with this relatively simple wheel? Which of the 10 available files should I choose?

 

Go to "Overtake"; the latest files are there, including for your Thrustmaster T300. Your basic T300 is still a very good base. Even today, I would always prefer a Thrustmaster belt or Fanatec belt base with 4-6 Nm of torque to a weak direct drive base. I'm referring to the driving feel, not the ecosystem or anything else.

 

Why is everyone moving to overtake?

 

Maybe because there are now 509 pages here...

 

Ideally, the Force output line should be near 100%. And there should be more than just one line in the bell curve (histogram graph)
And finally, there should only be brief and very small flashes in the last line (red clipping) of the histogram graph when curb striking.

Note: The Current FFB settings numbers at the very top are not representative of a normal set.
Something like 30/0/10/0/0 would be a better starting point.