Automobilista 2 January 2021 Development Update

I can see 3D artists dropping their sculpting tools and actively optimising hardcore multiplayer code... That's exactly what they've been trained to do and we'd end up with much better experience.

 

Sorry, but that's a bit reductive. I don't think anywhere in my post I suggested that scenario.

That said from my own experience in game design and digital content creation, employees on small teams tend to have a quite broad skillsets. Its not uncommon to shift outside your main area of expertise as and when the workload allows.

 

I hope you realise that coding multiplayer requires some hardcore knowledge about network, packets on top of your usual coding skillset? I suppose if you'd want multiplayer to be worse than it is then this would be a good approach.

You can't ask tailor to cut sheets of metal. There's a small chance of one having both skills but they are slim. And 3D artists are those tailors.

 

I mean obviously that scenario is unlikely. Then again I know some devs who would be comfortable moving from one area to another. I mean the army of one is such a common occurrence in this industry.

Anyway outside of that I don't understand why you have to choose the most extreme of scenarios. If you think there's no overlap in roles, fair enough but I personally disagree, that has not been my experience.

 

I know its not the same but while you wait for it in the main HUD there are a couple of options, first is already in game in the telemetry screen, the pedals and FFB are shown there or you could use something like SimHub to create your own I just made this is about 5 minutes and tested it, the pedals work but in my little time i didnt get the FFB to work but i'm sure it wouldn't be to hard.
Its easy to use this on a phone or even an overlay on your main monitor anywhere you want it

 

model 1. for example, give it a try on kansai gp track and do a lap about 1.35 (laptime of the current leader of the class) or 1.36 in tt without any driving aids. you could set your steam name to "marc collins" for this test, so that we can see your time on the board.

managed to do a high 1.36 regularly in tt or training sessions with model 1, now i am far away from that.

edit: steam friend of mine does not feel any difference, too. but he plays with abs, tc and stability control activated, as he is new to racing games, which should be a totally different driving experience.

 

Amen

 

Thank you Renato for your remarks.
I still think it's really nice that you are so close to the fanbase.

My only thought is that it would be nicer for everyone if the core of a simulation would be made suitable for a league, because that's what a project lives from, right?

During your development, we just want to open proper multi-player leagues with the existing content and stream them in high quality. That's why I keep asking.

And if we can celebrate proper sim sports in a timely manner, we also have a lot of time and patience for everything you still have in mind. And if it takes another 1 to 2 years, that's fine.

That's how I feel.

 

I truly think the majority of people in the forum completely get this, it's just that many of the 'why oh why don't you X-Y-Z' posts always pop up in the development update comments. Although this may be to be expected, it's still a bit odd that people don't quite get it yet. To me there is more than enough amazing content to enjoy that it's hard to find the time to whinge about what isn't done yet, but maybe I'm just lazy

 

Thanks for improving the AI.
Looking forward to the Omega stock car.

 

I don't like the GT3's in ACC so I hope AMS2 will never reach that level.

I had the same experience with Formula Classic Gen1 Model 2, going to a corner having the grip like a wiper on a dry window, but was able to dial it out with my setup.
I don't experience it in FC Gen 3 Model 2, The FFB of Gen 3 is heavier then it was before I lowered it to 95% from my nominal setting.

 

I will politely ask again: is there any open wheeler combo you guys are having fun racing vs the AI? This is a sincere question from the bottom of my heart.

Multiplayer currently is the land of no one, so I would love to immerse myself racing vs AI, but I can't find the right spot atm.

My issue currently is that I'm qualifying in pole with +1s over second place with AI set to 120 strength (F-Reiza, F-Classics G3), and by no means I'm a fast driver. During the races, I open up a gap and race alone (until I spin/crash ofc )...

Overall I never find myself in the middle of the pack, but either much ahead or way behind everyone else.

 

Very nicely explained. I think one thing people miss when they are complaining about the incomplete state of AMS2 is the fun of being part of the development journey.

To get a positive improvement on a near weekly basis is really fun (yes, I am aware that the weekly bit only applies to backers, but even on a monthly basis, the principle is the same).

Although the future destination sounds like a very exciting place, I think the journey is equally, if not more, exciting. For those that don’t see things this way, the answer is quite simple: just be patient. The $40 or whatever is hardly an issue when we pay $1000’s for pc’s / gpu’s / wheels / pedals etc... all of which are pretty useless without the comparatively cheap software. This point is what annoys me the most about some of the criticisms I see online: competition in the software realm can only benefit users long term, yet some people who aren’t digging AMS2 seem to be ‘angered’ by its very existence (same happened with PC2).

My previous sim of choice was PC2, I was a backer, now being an AMS2 backer, I am continually impressed by the open, honest communication from Reiza, as well as the staggering rate of development. It strikes me that the potential of the Madness engine is huge, but I guess the flip side of that is the workload in taking it to it’s potential is also huge.

Count me as one very happy customer, I know I’m not speaking for everyone here, but I would happily pay more to see this sim become the masterpiece it has the potential to be.

 

I use legacy mode and slider at 20...It wasn't clear from the original post if that video was showing just visual shaking or if the FFB was actually also transmitting any shaking BTW

 

To enlarge the fun racing with open wheelers AI, you have to be very consistant in your driving, the fastest and slowest AI car are about a second apart, so if your lap times are a second apart you will never find a middle group, I would like to have a greater deviation in talent
I had a nice AI race in FC Gen1 at silverstone historic yesterday. skill 105/60

Race Report 3
Date 1 feb 2021
Release V1.1.1.0.1502.AVX
Car Formula Classic Gen1
Circuit Silverstone Historic 1991
Skill level 105/60

Practice
Weather Light Cloud no progression
Temp 27°C 46°C
Length 30 min
Fastest Lap 1:26.883
Postition 1
Fastest AI 1:27.280
Slowest AI 1:28.079

Qualy
Weather Light Cloud no progression
Temp 27°C 46°C
Length 15 min
Fastest Lap 1:26.223
Postition 1
Fastest AI 1:27.240
Slowest AI 1:28.059

Race
Weather Light Cloud no progression
Temp 27°C 45°C
Length 10 laps
Fastest Lap 1:27.659
Postition DNF (out of fuel)
Fastest AI 1:27.980
Slowest AI 1:28.740

Notes
In the race I am more than a second from my fastest lap in qualy, the AI wins in consintency.
I let one car pass at the start of the race and spend the rest of the race trying to catch him, a few times i almost passed him, but he always accelerated faster and passed me coming out of the corner. This probably explains my extra second in the race as well.
It was really thrilling trying to keep up or even pass him without taking to much risk and loosing my car
I went out of fuel, a 10 lap race and I toke 50L enough for 11 laps, setup told me. After restarting the race I checked my setup, it appears to be adjusted to 50L enough for 10 laps.
The lap times of the AI are more constant now, I don't know if this due to the skill-level, or something is changed in the update.
In this race the AI had an accident on the high curbs fighting each other, one car drove over the high curb got upset and was caught by another one and ended upside down. later in the race I saw two cars spinning of in a fight, I love it.

 

This is a big flaw when it comes to historical formula series. In reality, the lap time differences used to be 3-5 seconds per lap between the fastest and slowest cars, both in quali and in the race. There could easily be 10-20 seconds gap between cars. Yet, in AMS2 they drive nose to tail lap after lap after lap in packs of 5-6 cars. That rarely happened in real life and completely destroys the immersion as well as interest in racing these cars vs. the AI.