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Fair enough. But to be honest I have not seen it in any real-life video. But it is possible. But these things you are saying are things I heard of many things in the PC2 forum. And I think everyone agrees that the physics of PC2 was sometimes off.
One question. If you look at real-life videos, you clearly see that all the cars are connected to the road, I also haven't seen such chassis movement in a real-life group c car (yes in some old race cars). In your opinion, if you would overlay the car in AMS2 and that of real-life footage. Must they be the same in behaviour or must there be a difference and why?

 

I might try to join you again then, I was having fun! I can’t remember his name. I had a tiny hope that you might say you had the replay.

 

Thanks for the lecturing.
When I see someone answering a guy and at the same time insinuating that this guy has expectations that he in no way has expressed then I call it twisting another persons words.
OK?
Just re-read your own insinuating answer - instead of outpouring something about "good faith" and "believing in others" - and what have we.

ByTheWay: Hiding insinuations behind conditional sentences (if-then) doesnt make twisting others words any better.

 

Of course, but this is true of all sims. The "what is not there" changes. That PC2 has problems in one place - in particular the driveline and tires - does not mean that its handling of weight, suspension and chassis is wrong. It's incorrect to assume that, because one thing is wrong, everything else must also be off. Or similarly it's wrong to assume that if another sim gets its car handling just right through simplification, it must include all the correct phenomenon too.

Nascar at Daytona 2008 which I happened to have from the old days:

Also Skippy is not a Formula Vee, but I like them for similar reasons. Just proper bangers that rotate all day long. This with a lot of road noise and randomness each lap so you're trusting seat of the pants feel. Lots to like and reminds me of something

While we're at it, I was in an SRS F-Trainer race with you I think. It was at Spielberg. Though you had some bad luck with your suspension or maybe a backmarker if I recall correctly.

 

Agreed. AC/ACC/R3E are fine games, but the feeling of rubber to road is not there for me. It feels like you're driving a brick that occasionally slides across the road and bounces around a bit. Maybe that's accurate for high-powered GT cars with hard slicks on a dry track, but not for other types of cars.

AMS1 is the "odd man out" because there I can feel more of a connection, but it feels surreal and completely exaggerated. I understand why people love it so much, but I also don't think it should be automatically the gold standard for how cars in AMS2 should feel.

 

I especially like the see-saw wheel motion the Cortina driver does through sweepers. Try that in some other sims known for their "great front-end feel"...

 

Great post. This is the first video I saw where I also see the somewhat (but not as extreme as in the sim) of that floaty feeling. But doesn't this strengthen my case if you look what cars they are racing here with such a great tendency to rolling?

 

I could be wrong (I’m getting old!), but I think I had to re-fuel (I think I miss calculated!!). Schoolboy error!

I remember the Virginia race a back marker (under blue flag) crashed me into a wall and broke my suspension, but I’m fairly sure that was net code related (although he wasn’t adhering to the blue flag very well). Had to limp the car home, and got my first incident point too. Those cars are such good fun though.

Shameless plug 2: EU SRS leagues for AMS2 start again this weekend.. can’t wait.

 

I shall post a video again if I see it. Ok?