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The Sauber can upset itself pretty easily even before boost kicks in. And once it kicks in it's game over unless you adapt . Perhaps, because it's a dangerous beast all the time you feel less contrast and that false sense of security before boost.

 

I see nothing floaty here. And even has you drive the Gr. Cs there is no feeling of floatiness in the steering wheel for these cars.

 

Did you see any footage of iracing? It's far worse there the amount of roll and oscillation. The only sim where rolling and oscillation are not there is AC/ACC for a good reason that the cars chassis there in general are completely isolated from the wheels (wheels move in the wheel well as if cars were Rolls Royce limos) and there seems to be a huge push down force added to keep the car in contact with tarmac..
I think most of the visual of the vertical movements is actually exacerbated due to the camera behavior when using certain settings.

 

I agree. Gr.C cars in AMS2 right now feel as sharp as they come in any sims right now. Nothing really floaty there.

 

Even modern cars do take off the tarmac at times. It's perfectly normal in certain situations. Even F1s of the 2000s were having micro-jumps visible in the super-slow motion replays at Nurburgring GP chicane

 

Sure no problem. I shall give the short version . I just haven't got the money for a decent wheel and even more problematic, I don't have the place for a half-decent set up.
I have a decent enough pc. I don't want to play this sim with a joypad. I had a very very cheap wheel (no ffb) and that was just crap. Also because I could not place it decently.
This is the ultra-short version of why. If you want to know more then just ask

 

Yeah I also think the camera is not doing it any favors. I have seen footage of iracing. But it is the sim I don't like very much.
And yes imo (but it is too extreme there) ACC looks closer to the real-life footage to me (from inside the cockpit). If I look at footage of AMS2 and ACC and real life and I am talking about GT3 only then to my eye ACC looks the most realistic. The AMS2 more often than not looks more out of control. Like it is driving on the edge. That is similar to those moments that I also saw from crimson with the group c if he came out of the chicane. That was the same on edge. Maybe it has something to do with the differential.

 

Thanks for replying. I get where you are coming from totally in terms of being a non functioning fan. Half of the worlds internet traffic* is people watching videos of other people playing games, so you’re not so weird. I do it too with certain game types (eg MSFS).

*maybe

I personally don’t think you can judge this matter from videos. Sorry. Just my opinion, and I accept it could well be wrong.

Edit, My reason is because I think the Madness games occupy a different paradigm to other sims and certainly real motorsport.

 

I think I judge it on real life, and also on PC2 because I see some slight similarities in that behaviour and I played that a whole lot.
I shall say it this way. When I look at MSFS I see these planes going up and down in the sky, and to me, it is not realistic.
I have been going to airshows my whole life. Just like I haven't missed a F1 race in my life, both thanks to my dad.
And then when you watch footage of DCS I am just blown away. It is just spot on. It is beautiful to see. It correlates so well with real life in all departments. And that is not easy. It is rarely you see that even in multimillion-dollar movies like Top Gun 2, I always cringe how unatural they fly in those movies. I pick that up immediately.
I think if it clicks it just clicks and no questions are asked.
That's why I think a couple of things are happening here. And the camera is also a big one. Because otherwise, I would see it in the replay too.

 

Interesting approach indeed......

 

ACC exhibits some very strange motion effects that support your point about the suspension behavior. The suspension feels more like you're riding on a magic carpet than in a car, it's very odd feeling and easily the worst motion of any title, imo.

Fortunately, AMS2 doesn't have that issue and I think the motion effects combined with the current view options are working quite well.

 

I really dream this car will sometime come in ams2 too...Besides, this car is present in pc cars 2 so....

 

Yes. (From memory) when I select to play it, it saves a copy first. This usually happens right? I’m not very familiar with the replay system.

 

Oh wow, I would not even attempt to try to get to 20nm, reckon I would end up in hospital, lol