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Interesting. I haven't tried tuning it out with dampers, etc. In fact there's a debate to be had about Reiza's default setups. Should they be nearer the ideal or does leaving a lot of room for improvement add depth to the gameplay for setup enthusiasts? But that is going off-topic...

 

Yeah, debatable subject, that indeed. I don't think Dev's should make super-fast default setups but, leave room for improvement. Of course, drivers have their own preferences anyway. Having stable setup's out of the box makes sense (Slight under-steer).

It might be interesting to have some designated cars with poor setup's to trouble-shoot though, as a sort-of learning tool.

 

I haven't driven those as much as I should but, I plan on spending more time with them. I tend to drive the default setup for quite a while before making changes (unless the default is really too far off). I prefer a slight over-steer tendency but, neutral is good too.

 

Here are my impressions after running the GT1 cars on Velo Citta' Track Day course. I chose this track for it's curves and tight corners, emphasis on mechanical grip. It lacks the long sections to stretch these car's legs but, it's great for Touring Cars and the like.

Porsche GT1: Nicely balanced car, seemed quite tame for a Porsche but, I got on with it really well and never felt like I really found the edge in just 10 laps. No scary moments at all.

Merc GT1: After the Porsche, this car was a hand full, so much so that I looped it a couple times during the out-lap. Initial turn-in was hesitant with some under-steer, then mid-way through it would transition to over-steer as it exited the turns. Not a stable drive for me as it is.

McLaren GT1: This car was a mixed bag for me, under-steery on corner entry but, a little throttle helped it balance out. Too much throttle resulted in over-steer but, not as much as the Merc so, more controllable overall.

 

Wow, that is some crazy force,vi don't like a real heavy wheel when turning but I like how that can make you fight the wheel at times like you see drivers doing, unfortunately light settings don't seem to do that. I thought I did read something a few years ago that someone was making a DD with high nm, I thought it was somewhere around the 50-60 range.

 

Nice, I figured there was a reason you asked about them.

I think you're on the right track with the GT1 setups and I agree that the AMG is fun, because it's challenging to put the power down effectively and consistently. I wouldn't expect (nor want) all of these cars to behave the same, and any needed BOP adjustments should preserve their unique strengths / weaknesses in the end.

 

Speaking of cars that should be rescued from PC2 along with the Panoz and the Jaag XJR-9, can we have the KTM X-Bow R?

 

Yep I agree. It has mostly disappeared at least from the most grippy and stiff cars (GTs, Protos, Formula 1). Probably some touring/stock cars may show it slightly more still

 

Can you chip in to get me a DD? I'd love to experience 25NM through a wheel and just cant afford that expense
I'll be your best friend

 

Have you been discussing the way the Group C cars (amongst others) aren't grip limited enough at full boost? 1st, 2nd, 3rd gear even on slicks on a fully wet track and full throttle with little worry to spin I just went back to AC for the first time in a long while and the Sauber there is quite frankly on another level (with the challenge of keeping it straight even with warn slicks on dry track).
I hate to compare sims but honestly what else can we do??

 

To what then? Personal experience What else do we compare to other than video which isn't great to use to compare imo.

 

Nice, but what is that?

Even in 1st gear (so very little downforce) the Group C's don't move around like those turbos would suggest. Even slicks on wet track. Its not limited to the Group C either, there is something weird with how high downforce cars move about also Taking the v10 to Montreal 1988 and the fast chicanes as the rear steps out its more like the rear stays put and the front moves or something weird. Hard to describe but very easy to feel.

But as Crismson said, its being talked about.