Automobilista 2 V1.3.4.0 RELEASED!

Yes but to be honest GT3s don't do standing starts anyway and if they did any standing start probably their clutch and gearbox would end up being damaged to destruction anyway. Not sure what could be a proper modeling for that...

 

The problem is of technical nature and the lack of simulation of it. as far as i Know, and as far as simulated in ACC, you can't get over 4500 RPM with clutch disengaged. This is also my daily experience with my current own car: clutch pressed means a RPM limiter engages at 4200 rpm (maximum Torque point).
on some older cars I had indeed twice a clutch damage (broken pressure plates) due to "burnout starts"

 

I think this is correct (and applies to my road car, too). @CrimsonEminence can add "neutral rev limiter for cars equipped with one" to the list of requested updates

 

Thanks! If it exists already as an option in the code, it will be quick and easy. If it has to be manually added/coded, I won't hold my breath, but will remain hopeful for the long term

 

The RPM limit at 4500 is imposed to prevent the mechanical limits of the clutch disc from being broken once the clutch grips the drive wheels for some especially more sensitive car types. The limiter must certainly be put on the GT3s when in neutral, but on older cars it is an H gearbox the synchronizers not only would not be able to engage the first gear with the limiter engine, but would immediately burn the clutch disc once engaged.

Thanks for your availability and making this Sim better.

 

I guess the over issue is that rolling starts need to be made more reliable in a mp setting, such that GT3 at Monza/Spa races (which is 99% of the sim racing MP experience) don’t need to start with standing starts.

 

The other fix i desire is that pit speed limits be determined by the track, not the car/class. It doesn't make sense that the classic mini can legally drive through the monaco pits at 100kmh, whilst GT3 etc must stick to 60kmh

 

Not sure where you are taking this but I have had a number of older cars from the 70s and even more recently a 2006 C6 Z06 and there is no limits or issues to engaging 1st gear at any rpm with clutch depressed.
The limit to certain rpm (where it exists) comes from electronics and I am not sure in street cars that has anything to do with clutch integrity, most likely it's emission related.
In racing it is instead both for clutch integrity and standing start efficiency: drivers can lean against the limiter places at the best torque point getting a better start with less clutch stress.

 

Ref Clutch/rpm posts
Just Curious.
(dont shoot)

 

Since the primary shaft is disengaged from the flywheel, fully Agreed.
+ If such a limiter exist in real Gt3 etc cars, then some concrete evidence of it would be welcome before any limits applied in sim.
If ACC is correct in its 4,500 rpm limits relative to real race cars then fine. evidence should be easy to find.
Early days in clutch damage ams2 as Crimson has stated so some headroom to play with if scale is off. + Racecars real life dont have weak clutches fitted generally.

 

High five for the Z06. I got a 2007 one myself

 

In modern road cars, even fully manual ones, this is part of the "launch control" or hill hold or simply start up help programm, often coupled with the brakes to hold brake pressure. I figured out it works very well as a perfect launch control at traffic lights too.

 

Such a lovely beast

 

Must be such a joy to be able to smash it out of the pit lane that way

 

missclicked!

 

I explained myself badly and was referring to modern cars that have an electric limiter, and a lot of racing cars also have clutch limited for a number of starts.

in the video of the porshe posted reference is made to the first gear one already engaged which is different as in the video posted by me, in keeping the gearbox in neutral and the engine at 8000 rpm then in the limiter and inserting the first gear while always keeping accelerated.
Not in all the old manual cars, but in many by accelerating to the maximum with the gearbox in neutral, and engaging the first gear by pressing the clutch is not very easy, precisely because the synchronizers of some cars struggle to synchronize the crankshaft with the the wheel drive shaft.

 

That sound tho...



Also RIP, GTLM/GTE... Everything endurance racing is eventually going the GT3 route eventually, but it was awesome while the class lasted.

 

Buenos Aires spotted.

Automobilista 2 Beta update for 15 March 2022 · SteamDB:
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