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Power steering didnt catch on that fast yes the full size land barges had it but not many others. Even into the 70s it was common to see no power steering. The early power steering was horrible in those cars to. You could drive most of them with one finger it was so light.

 

I have driven many cars without power steering and I drove a replica of metal bodied style car (Sterling Moss era), it didn't have power steering either. What it did have was a steering wheel with a huge diameter.

What is the point? That these cars should feel ridiculously heavy?

In my experience the only time it was heavy was at a stop or near stop.

I'm not suggesting you are wrong in your reply to the original post (that the F-Vee is too heavy for example) but I absolutely do think some people exaggerate just how heavy old cars should feel with 60nm(!) wheels etc



Sold it just 2 months ago.

 

I can confirm that when the car was driving it was pretty normal to steer, of course not as progressive as today. The problem only got worse when parking. By the way, great and beautiful car

 

I drove it (the F-Vee) last night too and enjoyed it. Good fun in its own quirky kinda way.

Thanks, it broke my heart to sell it but sadly didn't have the space to keep it. It was my father's and he designed and made so much of it himself, including the exhausts to pay homage to the spitfires.

 

I can only repeat myself, a beautiful car. That would have broken my heart too. But the memory of this piece of jewelry will remain

 

I remember driving 8 wheel tippers with 2 steering axels and no power steering. When going slow you had to stand up in the cab too turn the wheel ! Was fine when at speed though. The crash gearbox was another challenge though lol

 

Not since I was 10, no.

 

I think they added power steering mostly so that ladies could park.

My dad's cars were all without power steering (Ford Corsair and '77 Ford Cortina) and I remember struggling to turn the wheel as a kid when you're playing in the drivers seat and my dad giving me a couple of lessons and you were trying to do a 3 point turn with this heavy wheel and him saying "You need to turn it when it's moving" - but my instructors car had power steering and you could go lock to lock with the car stationary.

Most of the cars that I was driving after I'd passed my test didn't have power steering, albeit it was becoming more of a thing we were typically buying cars that were old bangers.

It wasn't really until 1995 when I got a 5 year old 2.0i cavalier that I got stuff like electric windows, power steering, electric mirrors, central door locking etc. Still no ABS and you had to put a key in a lock and turn it to open the door.

It takes a reasonably long time for new tech to become ubiquitous because most people are buying used cars, and they keep them for a relatively long time. If you added space lasers to all new cars tomorrow it'd probably be 2028-2038 at the earliest before I bought a used car with space lasers.

 

Mk2 Escort rs2000 , was much younger and stronger back then but still remember it making me sweat when having to manoeuvre slowly around town or in a tight carpark .

 

1967 Dodge Dart....all of the above....and 3 on the tree. Push real hard on the brake pedal if you want to stop. Don't how my old granny drove it....but she was a farmers wife.

 

I drove almost daily a non power steered diesel Fiat uno until a couple of years ago. Modern and small enough to be easy though. You only miss power steering when parking.

For a very short time I drove a (pretty similar) Fiat Fiorino with no brake servo. I actually liked more than I should.

 

The next time you get in one, you'll notice the mandatory rib protector that is required to prevent injuries from the cornering forces. And once you drive it for more than a lap, you likely won't be able to hold your head up from the g-forces acting on the weight of the helmet.

 

To stop me from braking a rib laughing at your post?

 

I learnt to drive in a Volvo 200-series, don't remember the exact model, but it wasn't top-of-the-line. Like already mentioned, it's only an issue when parking. In a modern car you don't really get a sense of the forces involved, with 4WD TC, ABS and SC going on, and five or six steering presets you can customize to your liking. A bit like a video game, I think.

On a pre-power-steering racing note, I remember Nigel Mansell talking about how his upper-body strength being to his advantage on certain tracks. Some of those '80s corners weren't as much a matter of how much grip, downforce and balance you had as it was a matter of how firmly you could hold the car steady. According to Nigel Mansell, that is. What do I know.

 

I will always remember the horrible feeling of my first lockup without ABS on a highway. Long live driver aids..

 

Stache power.

 

Yes sure, ABS is a blessing for safety reasons. But the feeling for braking and dosing the braking force was partly lost

 

It's the price of "progress", give it a few generations and sim racing and actual racing will have swapped places, people be like: "I drove this car IRL and it drives nothing like in the sim, the real car feels so wrong" we have come full circle then

 

One of the old Ford 5.8L V8s I used to have as a daily did not have power steering and that thing was brutal to turn whilst not moving, even on highway though you could still feel it was heavier than one with PS. I guess that is what you get when you are in your 20s and only care about engine power.