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I can't recommend enough to try them all (the last available version), but give them a good try (it can take some time to understand what's been communicated).

 

Cannot argue with this. Over the years I've probably sampled a bit of most of the custom files out there, yours included. Just about every one of them has a different approach to FFB, what forces they highlight and integrate, what the final feeling is. Usually find something to appreciate in all of them. Funny part is as of 1.5, I've gone back to the "default" as my preference. Sometimes I'll switch it up for certain cars/classes as I may prefer or think that a certain style of FFB feels better for that car/class. Absolutely agree that everyone should experiment and try out as much as they can, you never know what you're missing until you get hands-on time with it. Since it's been months, I'm looking forward to checking out updated custom FFB profiles for 1.6 once you and all of the other great folks tweak them for the update.

 

AFAIK - Default+ is the standard mode for reporting on FFB issues / per-car issues.

I use Default mainly but often test with Default+ for comparison. Both are excellent imo, although each may require some changes to Gain / Damping / FX levels for best results.

The #1 mistake observed on user complaints of AMS2 FFB - (Either Default Preset) is not using settings which stabilize the FFB. Real cars have physical (whether in geometry or other mechanical means) to stabilize the steering system.

With Sim Steering-Hardware, stability may be inherent (Belt-drive for ex.) or not. Direct-drive wheels generally have no Automatic stabilizing forces and the inherent over-shoot tendencies (within the FFB signal) lead to wheel oscillation.

Add to that, each title handles internal ffb-signal a bit differently, and some require us to provide steering-stability (or balance) through various game-ffb settings. The AMS2 ffb-signal tends to be quite raw. The upside of that means we have access to all of the detail one could want in FFB. The downside is the ffb requires some understanding (and/or trial & error) through user-input to provide stability within the steering-system.

Step one in setting up AMS2-FFB should be to stabilize the steering through use of game-ffb Damping (or DD-wheel base Damping and / or Friction settings). Oscillation should be avoidable in any case; it is the obvious indicator of steering instability.

Is over-stabilizing possible? Absolutely. When the steering feels sluggish, the car's response to steering-input is lagging behind (slow self-aligning torque effect), that suggests the stabilizing forces are too strong. Loss of ffb-detail may also be an issue. Keep changes minimal to find a good balance, stable steering with good response to inputs.

 

I also use Default+ and it's excellent. However I haven't been able to erase the wild oscillations when letting go of the wheel above 60mph, seems to be a Moza thing as I have seen various Moza users with the same issue (R5 here) and I also have the same issue with LMU although on a smaller scale.

 

I also have these oscillations - CSL DD 8nm - but they're not so strong the I'd feel the urge to do something against it because I usually don't drive without hands on the wheel.

 

It WAS stated that all testing by devs is done on Default+. This was back before 1.5 came out. I clearly remember this being stated by the particular dev that was making the changes. Hope this gives you a more definitive answer to your question.

 

I have no experience with Moza however, the 4 different DD-systems I've used have all been effective at eliminating oscillation 100% through Damping & Friction. Once achieved, some fine-tuning should offer desired level of handling and detail.

If the center-steering feels a bit notchy, I increase Friction by 1pt at a time until it's gone. Damping may be done through the servo controls or AMS2 but after overall stability, I fine tune for steering-response (esp. oversteer response) and balance against detail retention / loss.