Logitech G29/G920/G27/G25 FFB Thread?

A bit off topic. Anyway. I appreciate the simplicity of ffb setting in UI. But, I'm also curious wether scrub effect could have a separate setting? Personally I would rather it wasn't linked with engine vibration. No big deal though. Overall the improvements to ffb/ physics have been huge. Really impressed.

 

@B Stu, I think they dis-associated the scrub from the engine vibe after the last update. If you make a Custom file you can adjust both of those values to your liking.

 

I thought that was min force they added to custom file? I`ll look into that thanks )

 

Yeah, that too. But I find I don't need it (min Force) with these settings 93-10-25-1. It appears to me (and I could be wrong) that the LFB is sort of like the gamma adjust in the AC FFB, which boosts the center levels. AMS2 FFB tome, is feeling very much like my AC FFB set up, it's custom also. So, I'm happy with it for sure. My AC FFB level is also about 65%, and with a gamma boost, it feels great without clipping ever.

 

Those settings are roughly where I am at the moment. I have found myself leaning towards a lower gain. Over 75 seems to add some unwanted forces for me. So upping the LFB does seem to add almost a bit of wieght and maybe smoothens out some spikes in the mid range. I almost sound like I know what im talking about). Needless to say further updates will require some more experimentation, which is fine. Oh the FX, sometimes I run that 0-50 sometimes 50-75. I`d rather not have to bother with any FX settings just now.

 

@B Stu Do you have the Load Cell for your G29 pedals? I got it a couple of months ago, what a huge difference!

 

I don't no. But I'm keeping an eye on the Thrustmaster T-LCM pedals. Seem like a good product for the money.

 

I report my experience with my G920 ... before the last update I could not have high GAIN, the behavior in these cases was very characterized by the pendulum effect, clipping and regardless of the steering, even if hard, it was little coherent and detailed ... the only way to avoid indiscriminate oscillations was to reduce it to about 60-70 ... to fill the center and the dead zone I used LFB at 80 as recommended for Logitech and the FX I set it between 50 -60 ... the result was enjoyable, but light, not very informative and with vibrations very disconnected from the road ... I did not feel the gum, and went behind the damper sensations.

We get to version 0.9.2.1 ...
- in the LogitechHUB profile I leave everything at default 50-50-50 and I leave the spring active at 10% even if it doesn't matter because the game (if I'm not mistaken) should not use this setting while driving but only in the menus. Having said that, we arrive you have new settings
- in the game all to default, only the brake at 35 of sensitivity (this greatly improves the feeling of braking on the pedal) ... and select New Profile ...
Important: remember, if you have never done it before deleting the whole documents folder / motorist, do the calibration of the steering wheel again and in the menu before starting a race, to load the default car setting in order not to carry erroneous settings of previous versions of the game.
- in the FFB menu, the GAIN now I can raise it up to a value of 88 without clipping on the car which has the hardest FFB (i.e. the Sprintrace) ... the LFB I can raise it up to 85 without having excessive distortions, on the contrary, so I can fill well the center and i don't have the dead zone ... the FX (which before did not raise more than 60 because it generated strange effects) now I can keep it at 75 and can give me a some engine and chassis vibrations without strange behavior. The only element that I can say feeling little is the scrub effect of the wheels on the asphalt but otherwise I now feel connected to the road both in the weight movements of the car and on the feeling that the wheels have on the asphalt

So in summary I now happily use 88-85-75 ... these high values on the hardest car like FFB (the sprintrace) does not shake me and I am at the limit but without clipping and with excellent sensations very full ... the same settings, however, now allow me to still have decent information sensations on cars with the lighter FBB like the various Formula Gen1 -2 and 3 ... now I only hope for an increase in the tire scrub effect that seems to have been attenuated in the latest update ...

Notes: I think the G920 is different from both the G29 and the G27 even if constructively very similar above all to the G29 ;-)
Let me know how you are ... hello everyone and sorry for my english i use google translate!!

 

Seems pretty good now, and if you want more scrub, you can add more in a Custom set up.

 

I report what I wrote on the discussion of the last update 0.9.3.1, maybe you can help me ...

"Logitech G920: I was very happy with the FFB in version 0.9.2.1 ... very full, I felt the chassis, the weight transfer and the tires, the only thing I wanted increased was the scrub effect on the asphalt or the detail ... having said that, unfortunately, I have to say that the FFB in this new version 0.9.3.1 I didn't like it at all, for some things it is more detailed (sliding and scrub), but unfortunately I don't feel this fullness at the center ( indeed it seems to me much less full), the excessive (hateful) swing has returned, I feel this strange pendulum effect (I fight with the weight of the car), I lost feeling especially in braking and strangely every time I block violently after a long straight, the car turns even if I steer a few degrees and I don't recover it anymore ... I have the feeling of having a mule that pushes me out of the corner, and counter-steer the problem it catapults to the other side ...

I deleted the documents folder, I put back the settings of before, I loaded the profile and the default settings, I entered the same FFB values (I also looked for other combinations), but I can't find the balance anymore, ... I don't know if you have the same problems as me ... I will try again tomorrow, but I don't think it's me that doesn't work, I was upset ...

Car Sprinteace, Circuit VIR, GAIN 88 LFB 85 FX70
Same feeling on other cars and other circuits "

 

If this is representative of the final product, I am very dissapointed.
All I am getting on my G920 is an extremely dampened vibration. No transients what so ever. it doesn't give me any real information through the wheel. You can see it on the telemetry curve aswell. it's all smooth lines. no transients at all.

Anyone have an updated custom config I could test cause this default is trash.

 

With reference to the Logitrch G920, I am concerned that this modified FFB in version 0.9.3.1 is the basic version on which to make future improvements ... if it remains so, I don't think it can improve by adding only the effects, because it seems defective in the starting point ... I would not like to return to the nightmare of PC2, where I played for months and months, not to do racing with cars, but to find modified FFB files that would solve the oscillation defects never resolved until the end (in that case, the only solution were the Jackspade file which partially solved the defects of the basic version).

From the first comments, I see some with the G27 who seem happy with this version, I have not yet seen particularly positive comments on the G29 (without using custom files), but regardless of this, please Reiza to check what has changed on the Logitech G920 from version 0.9 .2.1 to version 0.9.3.1, the previous version could be, in my humble opinion, an excellent starting base at 90%, but the latter, if it remains the definitive one to refine, worries me a lot ... even today, I tried everything again the possible and I can not have any driving pleasure ... I do not say to criticize, I only have a lot of hope in you Reiza and Mr. Simioni!!!
Thanks in advance ....

 

Hi all!
I'm always at search of a good FFB with G27.
With the last update seems no great improvement. Maybe it's my settings, maybe it's a old wheel.
Reading other forum's section FFB dedicated, Fanatec owner are happy!
Someone realized a custom FFB setting. Just downloaded and I will try even it isn't specifically for G27.
The FFB,at this point, is too much heavy on some cars and too much light on some other.
Scrub effects, track effects, brake effects are hiding at the moment
Hope come that " FFB per car setting" so we can be more comfortable with.
There's anyone so talented with structure files of PCARS2 that can try to give a good FFB settings file for G27?
Many thx!
Anyway AMS2 is a beautiful, growing up, sim!

 

I resolving the anomaly on my Logitech G920 (with the update to version 0.9.3.1/2), tweaking with the parameters I got very close to the FFB of version 0.9.2.1 in this way:
- FX now to hear it I have to put it higher, even 80-90 (previously 65-75 was enough);
- LFB before it was 80-85 now to fill it with sensations I have to put it at 90-95;
- GAIN (which I previously kept at 88 as a limit) now, however, I must keep it at 80, otherwise clipping occurs (probably due to the increase of the other values).

Then 80-90(+/-5)-85(+/-5) ...

I always test with the Sprintrace (which has a very strong FFB) on the VIR International circuit and then on the Ibarra circuit, the only thing that annoys me compared to version 0.9.2.1 is the steering center, which is not full as before and fluctuates a few degrees in empty and then suddenly take (dead zone) ... but now it is on the way to an acceptable and drivable curve.

 

I can't feel road surface very clearly regardless of settings, is it even possible?

 

I'm having this issue too, turning from 11 o-clock to 1 o-clock on the G29 there's just nothing there anymore, massive dead zone, and also the whole FFB seems completely flat :-/ I can only feel a linear force left or right with no fluctuation etc.
Previously it was fine!
I've always had decent results at the stock 100/50/50, but will try your settings. I tried a couple files from the ffb custom settings thread too but they didn't seem to help regards the center being dead. May be worth a shot for you @Clippy2020

 

I think the "Connecting the dots" ffb file (Automobilista 2 Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations) is pretty promising.
Just need to dial in the min_force and the lfb_rack_ratio, and I think I am getting there....

 

I tried that one last night and was disappointed tbh , just not sure it suits the Logitech wheels . My main problem was it was way to light in the center , just felt vague , like having too much toe out on the front wheels .
If you have any success with tweaking the file would love to know your results .
Good luck

 

I tried the 9.3.2 patch with f-vee in brands short and had feeling on the top with 100/70/50 on a G27. Of course I don't know what you mean by feeling. I had resistance and bumps there. I don't care about the bumps myself, I just want to feel how the tires are in relation to where I'm heading.

 

Today I'm really happy .....

Logitech G920 steering wheel
LogitechHub Profile Default (50-50-50 Spring 10)
Game Setting Sensitive Default (50-50-50) and Deadzone all to 0

Regarding the FFB Default of the new update 0.9.5.1 I can say that it was a big improvement this time, I am very happy and perhaps it is even more beautiful than the 0.9.2.1 version that I liked a lot (I did not like the 0.9.3.1/2 version not at all and I was very frustrated).

Having said that, my personal feelings, on this update 0.9.5.1 and on my cheap steering wheel, were these:
- The GAIN has not undergone any particular changes compared to the previous versions, therefore only small adjustments but in the end I stabilized on 85;
- LFB now needs a bit higher values than before to fill the center and the dead zone, until 0.9.2.1 80-85 was enough, with 0.9.3.1/2 I kept it around 90, now with this version I keep it up to 95 without anomalies;
- FX same speech, even the maximum septum at 100 (up to values around 75 you don't hear much).

So in summary we have GAIN 85 LFB 95 FX 100 ... for me it's wonderful.

 

G27 here
A step in the right way.
Still no effects when I go offroad or in heavy brake, but better sensations on track.
My settings, for now in game are:
gain 40
LFB 70
FX 65
I'll test it again: for now only with formula Vee, Formula Classic and Stock Car.
Thx Reiza!