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Reiza General Update - Fresh 2019 News!

Discussion in 'Announcements' started by Renato Simioni, May 22, 2019.

  1. Gevatter

    Gevatter Active Member Reiza Backer

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    There's a BMW Procar @0:44 :hurrayreiza:
    I liked the trailer, then I unliked it, so I could like it again.
    With PC2 graphics and livetrack and Reiza's physics this is set to become phenomenal.:eek:
     
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  2. Msportdan

    Msportdan Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    s397 just shat themselves

    im in shock I wont lie..


    Welcome to the best sim money can buy on the pc..


    omg whoa!
     
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  3. Msportdan

    Msportdan Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    Thanks Renato and the team, think you've got yourself a winner here.

    now we know why pc3 wasn't going to be a sim!!!

    yep still in shockl!
     
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  4. Renoista

    Renoista New Member

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    Shock, shock, shock ovo totalni je shock
     
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  5. Will Mazeo

    Will Mazeo Active Member Reiza Backer

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    does PC2 have rejoin?
     
  6. André Gaida

    André Gaida New Member Reiza Backer

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    The Ai in Pcars 2 is scripted and not physic related so that they can drive faster on straights or corners like the real driver or they slow down on straights the keep the lap times, because the performance hit of the advanced tyre physics would be to big to calculate it for the ai. I'm curious how Reiza will solve the problem, because the scipted AI in Cars 2 is really poor
     
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  7. FS7

    FS7 Active Member Reiza Backer

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  8. Marcos Gil

    Marcos Gil New Member Reiza Backer

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    Tenho o pacote o season pass do automobilista, como faço para pegar o DLC do Rfactor 2?
     
  9. mister dog

    mister dog Member Reiza Backer

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    Nice looking forward to see what you can get out of that engine. Marriage made in heaven?
     
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  10. David Wright

    David Wright Member Reiza Backer

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    You are confusing two issues.

    The first ssue is using the full player physics for AI is demanding in terms of processor use. Traditionally, sims (including rF1 and rF2) have used a simplified version of the player physics for the AI. rF2 and PC1/2 have particularly demanding tyre physics so rF2 uses the rF1 tyre model for the AI as did PC1. PC2 uses an AC-type brush model for the AI.

    The second issue is how to match AI laptimes to the player. This is done by modifying the AI grip, power, setup (or a combination) in all racing sims. Even where the AI and player use "identical physics" such as in AC, you still need a method to slow down or speed up the AI.
     
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  11. André Gaida

    André Gaida New Member Reiza Backer

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    I'm not confusing anything at all.
    I have explained the problems of the Ki in Cars 2.

    This is exactly what I already mentioned by mentioning that the CPU power is not sufficient to apply the tire physics of Cars 2 to the Ki.


    Up to Cars 2 I have never been overtaken by an identical car with a massive excess of speed, while the car of the Ki 1 second still drove with the same speed behind me.
    This is a very cheap trick of a rubber band AI and with it the Ki just decoupled from the player physics, if the Ki can call up several hundred more PS just to reach the lap times and you will never notice it in the other simulations. There is also no aquaplaning for the AI, which is why the Ki drove much too fast in the rain at the beginning of Cars 2, only to be slowed down by a patch due to the script, which is why the Ki drove extremely slowly in the rain for the whole lap, completely independent of the respective grip conditions, only to adjust the lap times to those of the players, who could drive faster than the Ki over wide areas, but lost a lot of time in puddles.
    No I didn't confuse anything, I explained the problems of the Cars 2 physics, which is much worse than the other titles and simply useless, because not only a simpler tire model is used, which you can still assign real grip values, as it happens with Rfactor2 for example, but because the AI can behave completely abnormal regardless of the circumstances.


    Since the Madness Engine is based on the Gmotor Engine, it might even be possible to re-integrate the rFactor1 tire model for the AI, so it would be quite handy as in AMS1. I am actually positive, the quality of Reiza has always been very good. Optically we will probably get to see the most beautiful tracks of all racing sims. I found the details and care of the color matching and material selection in AMS 1 already extraordinarily ingenious. The whole paired with a modern engine will certainly be extremely cool.

    And to be honest, I just want to go online anyway.
     
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  12. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    You are right, but "adapative AI" can be used for good or evil ;) It can be arcadish like PCars 2 implementation, or turned off as a serious race sim would at least offer as a default or option, or maybe even enhanced so it replicates what might happen in a real race--such as a driver pushes a bit harder than normal after an off to catch back up to the field. It's up to the devs whether this feature remains in the realm of the realistic or arcade, so do not worry. I have faith Reiza has no intention of turning the clock backwards on the realism of AMS.
     
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  13. Gilles Lalonde

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    Slightly Mad Studios engines... that - is - scary!

    So at least all remarks on the dated looks of Automobilista will vanish but since Automobilista is for serious hardcore sim racers, like rF2 is, what will it be? How much can this code be switch from a bumper car game to a hardcore sim?

    No game pad console kiddies can jump into AMS without going into shock. Making the sim a game alleviates that.

    If it can't be turned... or simply left as is, it's a loss of all their install base. No serious league is going to switch to a bumper car game for loyalty's sake.

    The real question is basically the same and it still has nothing to do with graphics: "What is Reiza's intended market with AMS2 ?" Gamers or Simers?

    You can't please both.
     
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  14. SlowPoke80

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  15. Msportdan

    Msportdan Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    really people think reiza would pick a product that would be arcade?! lol

    Im pretty sure the guys know what there getting themselves into,... and they can defo fix madness engine!!
     
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  16. taylajee

    taylajee Member Reiza Backer

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    You do realize that AMS can be played with a gamepad better than most racing titles (simulation and arcade) with little tweaking in controls menu?
     
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  17. Martin Vindis

    Martin Vindis Member Reiza Backer

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    Wow, I bet no one saw this coming!

    What's exactly being released in december? A full blown game version 1.0 or some early access/beta?

    Either way, super exciting choice and I can't wait to see more.
     
  18. Lino Carreira

    Lino Carreira New Member Reiza Backer

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    I love when teams do risky moves :) faith in reiza !
     
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  19. Lino Carreira

    Lino Carreira New Member Reiza Backer

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    You have no clue, wait for the 29th and you are in for a surprise...just saying!
     
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  20. Renato Simioni

    Renato Simioni Administrator Staff Member

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    Most likely sometime next week.
     
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