Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

You are wrong, your visual preception interferes big time in making sense of the 3D world around you (seasickness serves as an example).
That's why I need a FFB custom file that stays in tune with visuals or a cognitive dissonance rises.

I can also be wrong, that's why I say try it before telling someone what they should feel.

My very, very wild guess is there's a bug in 3D world/car placement (see this, the example may not be the best but serve to show how wrong it is).
If there is an incoherency and you notice it, too bad - you can get rid of it anymore. Some people may not be sensitive to it (example) but I'm not a pioneer talking about the center-wheel or skid or slide effect in AMS2. To my understanding, this is not a tyre or car chassis physics problem - the problem hides in the visual representation of the world (pivot point).

 

Good morning!
Your claim that I haven't tested it is wrong, I have tested it. Your adventurous story of cognitive dissonance is too far away for me personally. You give me examples of projectors and the rainbow effect. I've already had a few projectors and know what it is, but combining it with a simulation is too adventurous for me. Your video doesn't get me anywhere and just a lot of ???????? To make a long story short, I have absolutely no change in the FFB even when I move the seat forward +100. But if it makes you feel better then sit on the hood, anything is allowed I stay in the cockpit view

 

I didn't claim you didn't test and found nothing is wrong, just (for me) it is not a placebo effect as I can see front wheels sliding sideways around the track (the floatness people spoke about), clearly showing the graphics pivot point is somewhere else.
I feel/sense the wheels (FFB) are at the bottom of the screen (see the yellow line in the picture below, as a reference).
This is not a big problem in some cars (like the example) because the wheels are almost aligned to that line, but others have this problem more pronounced (with the F3, moving the seat forward, I can really notice the "more connected" FFB and the rotation of the 3D world seems in line to car rotation, leading me to perceive rear way better).

And no, I cannot race with +100 forward seat, that's not natural either .

 

One more question... what car (and track)?

 

I have a different opinion or feelings than you! Yes, it's true that the feeling of floating is there in Ams2. The connection to the front axle is far too little, plus the jumping through the car's suspension makes it even worse. For me it was and still is the problem of physics and the FFB. Maybe it will get better (the jumping) by changing Reiza through the active suspension. However, in my opinion, the missing front axle is clearly to be found in the FFB. That was one of the reasons why I started making my own customs. I have this front axle connection with my customs, and that's why I don't have that floating feeling anymore. And that's why I disagree

 

Sold my Fanatec GT DD Pro 8nm and Formula V2.5 & BMW GT2 v2 wheel. Ordered the Simucube 2 Pro wheelbase with GSI Formula Pro Elite wheel.

So I’m interested in Simucube settings.

 

Which V400 file are you using with the Simucube 2 Pro? Getting this base next week.

 

Automobilista 2 - Simucube 2

 

where is the Danielkart v400 file?

thanks

 

Your Custom FFB File Collection

 

I think you just need to purchase a VR headset. Sit in the car and you'll realise straight away it's not in the wrong place. You are.

 

correctly! Anyone who has VR knows that it is right. Sit on the roof of a car with VR and it will change your entire visual experience and you won't be able to drive. As soon as you sit in the car everything is perfect. But it will in no way change the FFB, the physics or the rotation of the car

 

I think you need moderation.
I would be enough for you to say in VR it doesn't happen like I describe or you feel differently. I would accept that, no worries.
Like you said, is just offensive.

 

I can only suggest that must be because English isn't your native language.

What I typed in the last post is just objective fact.

Put differently, there's no bug for anyone to fix.

 

Your last sentences make me believe is not a matter of language, we can understand each well enough.

So, if for you, in VR everything is ok, Reiza should not care about those driving single or triple monitors or feel something you don't feel, because everything is ok?
The sim should mention "only VR" is it's description, don't you think?

GamerMuscle feels the way I do about this, felt the differential was wrong too... Reiza already found the differential bug in Madness engine... What if...?

ps - I would be more careful about "facts" when we're talking about human experience. In my native language we call it "arrogância”.

 

Clearly not.

This makes very little sense at all for example. But as far as I can understand what you're trying to say it seems to be an attempt to put words in my mouth. It's certainly not something I've posted. If that's what you imagine you read then you didn't understand it.

People play driving games looking at a monitor using a controller. If they say "Fix the game, the car turns funny like it's got a wheel in the middle" - that's when I said "You need VR...the game is not broken" - but millions of kids manage just fine to drive like that - I'm not saying they shouldn't.

It's an objective fact that you're not sat in the car if you're looking at a monitor. Or even 3 monitors. It's an objective fact that the car isn't in the wrong place in 3d space - you are. You are in the wrong place - and it's not a surprise that it feels strange. However, a lot of people have learned how to play computer games that work like that, sims included.

Unless, like Mary Poppins you can jump inside the chalk picture you'll forever be outside of it looking at it. That's a fact. VR lets you be Mary Poppins.

Regardless of that - the idea that there's some FFB setting that will change any of this makes no sense at all and this is the thread for custom force feedback.

 

VR: In my experience, any discrepancies in car handling / physics / unnatural view characteristics, etc., will be amplified when driving in VR (More obvious).

Regarding FFB: If the timing of ffb effects is out of sync (often due to non-optimal Damping level), car handling will just feel wrong - period. Depending on the steering system in use, damping level in AMS2 is a critical setting to get right but, varies based on wheel. This especially applies to self-aligning-torque (SAT) steering characteristics.

 

I will not bother with this topic any further because it will not benefit me or the users and I have expressed my point of view on it.Everyone can believe and do whatever they please.Arguing doesn't help

But I can announce my V500 to people, which will bring a smile back to my face and I'm sure the users too.I was able to react very quickly to the changes from the update.The range of customs will become even more precise (9 files in total) and the selection will become even easier for people.The biggest improvement is in the brakes and the braking feel will get even better, it's fantastic.

I'll post it to you next week when things have calmed down a bit with the update from Reiza and the users.

I wish you a nice evening

 

FullFFB - New Version​

What's new:

• Improved high G-Forces cars feeling (previously, clipping occoured)
• Improved loss of front grip feeling
• Improved car rotation and rear loosing grip feeling
• Adjustments in braking and vertical bumps definition
• Implemented surface transitions effects (track-kerbs-offroad transitions)
• Reduced standstill force
• Reduced scrub effects

Still to improve/implement:

• Bottoming out effect, to be on a par with sound fx. Depends on Reiza, but expected to come
• ABS/TC effects, perhaps? Reiza..?

 

Do you or anyone else have recommended settings for the CSL DD with boost kit?