Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

OK guys, the gearbox and the kart tuning remain WIP, but the file is now complete, functional and tuned.
As usual we have two files for Gear/Belt, one for wheel with a small deadzone and the other for a wheel with a huge deadzone ... I hope you like them!!!

Name: rFuktor 4.6 KARSTEN ALL IN ONE V3* - Tuned by Stakanov for Logitech and Gear/Belt Wheels
*Based on last Original rFuktor 4.6 (Fix) Karsten's file... with these changes from the original... (in red bold the changes of V3 compared to V2 and V1):
+ Delta-X & Trail Kuku's adjustments...
+ Brake Centering setting code from 4.1/4.0 Karsten's file...
+ Centering and ForceScale slightly reduced...
+ Center_full, Load_norm_wheel and X of Vel_mag_k_pull value code modify (more relaxed center, high LFB tollerated, rubber sensation and velocity)...
+ Gearbox setting code added from Project Cars 2 Karsten's file (WIP for now with only 2 setting voice)...
+ Tire Deform setting code added from 4.4 Karsten's file...
+ Tire Viscosity, Os/Us Coef. and Tack factor setting code added from Easter Karsten's file...
+ Kart tuning revisited (WIP)...
+ Personal tuning and in game cursors value revisited!!!

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LOGITECH G920 ADVISES (for other Logitech the same range +/- 10 to taste)!!!
1) In game setting, select "Custom" with this starting value:
GAIN 96* - LFB 75 - FX 55 (to taste) - DP (PowerSteering) 15.
*Then, in the car setting, use +/- % of Gain for car to taste!!!

2) Logitech HUB Setting
Last version with default value (900° and all sensitivity to 50)

3) AMS2 Game Menù Setting
900° - All deadzone to 0 - All sensitivity to 50 except the throttle on range 20-35
If you use manual clutch try to set also this slide of sensitivity on range 20-35

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ADVISES FOR DIFFERENT GEAR/BELT WHEELS (No Logitech)!!!
1) In game try to start with this starting range-value for cursor:
GAIN 55-85* - LFB 35-65 - FX 30-60 (to taste) - DP (PowerSteering) 00-20.
*Then, in the car setting, use +/- % of Gain for car to taste!!!

 

Massive appreciation for continued efforts on the ffb side of things!
I will get to trying it out right away.

 

rFuktor 4.6 KARSTEN ALL IN ONE V3*
Instruction for newbies!!!!

1) Raise the GAIN until you reach the max desired resistance with high power car (for example the Formula GEN 2)!!!!
2) Turn up the LFB until the center and the low forces fill the steering wheel as desired but without wrong elastic effect.
3) Now reshape both GAIN and LFB values in small steps (+/- 4 or 2) until most cars sliding feel good both in oversteer than in understeer, and continue until all is synchronized with what you see on the screen. Try most cars for having this correct sliding (other Formula and then GT3, GT4, StockCar, SprintRace) ........
4) Only at this moment increase the effects slide FX as much as you like (to taste).
5) Finally, if everything is ok and you want to lighten the steering, use the last Damping slider which, as you know, in the custom file, represents the "Power Steering" and NOT the damping!!!! In this file don't lighten too much you can lose the rubber!!!
6) Now if you want, you can applies your tunes!!!

 

Here same wheel G920
Copy, past and applied your advises value 96-75-55-15, one word EXCELLENT!!!

 

This feels really good on my CSL DD with boost kit, in-game gain 70, LFB 60, FX 25, Damping 50 (with 20 NDP on the wheel, 100 FFB). Thanks!

 

@Efe7to .... this makes me very happy, because I don't have the possibility to try the files on DD bases, but this tells me that the changes (always improvable) are functional regardless of the wheel used (obviously with the different settings of the case) ... thanks for feedback

 

@Stakanov
I don't know if the information can be useful, but also my friend (with whom I often play) and in possession of a Fanatec DD (if I'm not mistaken 1 or 2) talking in chat, informs me "that the file is very pleasant and that the sensations behind the wheel are less dry, they tend to be softer and with a similar Reiza effect by default but always very informative as in the original 4.6 by Karsten. It just reset the tightening, slightly changed the rack_friction and modify only some effects."
Does this make sense?

I have a curiosity, what the GEARBOX does? It does not seem to be the effect linked to the gear change.

 

Thanks for the feedback, this is another important confirmation, I can tell you that what your friend says makes sense, because there are few items that differentiate a file to be suitable for a DD, a HighEnd or a LowEnd. .. these only are the main tunings with which you can make a file for LOW suitable for a DD or a HighEnd and vice versa: - tightening;- centering- the force_scale- the center_relax;- damping;- the rack_friction;- the statics_force
All the other voices in the file (to be modified or not) are just effects to choose whether to amplify or reduce ... the base of the files, or rather the code is identical for all ... I have always taken a file suitable for DD (karsten's files) and tune it for my cheap G920 ... even the opposite is simply doable!!!

For the GEARBOX:
All this code is an oscillator based on the difference between 2 inputs: driveshaft_core and clutchshaft_core. Not is the Gear change. In other words, it is a vibration derived directly from the sim and is the transmission shaft effect (drive & clutch), vibration and grind.
Originally in Project Cars 2 it should work only if you have autoclutch on, you'll rarely feel much of anything. Turn autoclutch off and use an old gearbox (like an old Lotus in PC2) and you should really feel it.
But I have rigged the cards a little ... the effect, however, is related to this aspect!!!

 

This is the first version I didn't like at all (G29). Very loose center even with 100% gain and 100% LFB, driveable but bland. I guess it's good if you like a more AC-style feel where the forces are almost zero until mid-corner. Kerb rattling was also bad.

 

Strange gain 100 and lfb 100 and not center or force in mid corner??? but you use the huge or the little deadzone file??? You have already by chance entered your tuning as in the previous files?? ... let me know

Any way, if no error no problem change this

(center_full (blend (min 1 (* lfb_slider 10)) 0.2 0.4))

is it solvable tell me if it works otherwise I have another solution

 

Does this solution involve the purchase of a DD wheel?

I like the file overall(on a t300), and it might be better suited for a geared wheel though, that's a while ago for me.
The one I've been using forever now is weightier, but not altogether dissimilar from your tune.
The fidelity in detail and overall communication is very good imo.
I couldn't help but notice a strong ACC-vibe there... Really strong.
ACC's ffb has always been somewhat of a subject for debate, but for me personally, it's the physics of it that I disagree with, not so much the ffb.

 

Would be nice if you could upload a file with the preferred parameters for a DD wheel. The last file is very good and we on a dd would be thankful to try a file potentially better and we could compare ourselves the differences on both files and personalize for our taste.

 

I have a similar feeling as Azaris with this file on a T300, the detail is there, it feels quick and responsive but too light for me in the center and doesn't load up in the corners as much as I would like. I will try making the adjustment you mentioned a few posts above.

I need to try GearNazi's file again there was a lovely weight to the wheel with that file so maybe with some tweaking it's the one for me.

Mostly I've been using Kuku's v3 it felt great with the BMW 2002 detailed and responsive with a nice weight, a bit muddy with the C9, however I feel very comfortable when driving to my limit with it.

I think I need to just pick one and tweak to my liking at this point. They all feel fantastic and really I think a wheel upgrade would be the biggest difference maker for me but that will have to wait.

 

Thankyou Richard goes well i went with 75,100 ,100 in Control Panel just the way I like it.

 

forgot to mention over all strenght of all forces i left at 60 constant 100 periodic 100 spring 0 damper 0

 

Guys for many months the compilers have not updated the code of the file which is stuck at 4.6 Fix and we try with our limits to improve the latest version we have ... no one is inventing news we are all climbing on the mirrors and we try to move forward by making mixes, additions and / or modifications made before.
It's not a competition, there are my files, those of Kuku, of Peter, of AndreiC, of Le Galoise, the original of Karsten and many others ... I think that none of us make our own tunes to beat those some 'other (it would be stupid) ... also there is no perfect universal harmony ... your pleasure is always in your hands nobody wants to touch it

If you like another tune (from other users) it is right that you use that one (it is almost never possible to compare two different files with different code by just saying which one you like), if you like the default Reiza it is right that you use that ... if instead you liked my previous tune (V1, V2, ...) and you don't like the last one, I can try to solve the problem with you or I can make the V3 like the V2 or V1 ... but to do this I need to know the settings you used, what you did as tuning and above all check that no mistakes were made unintentionally.

Returning to the subject, I communicate (who liked my previous V2) the 5 simple changes to be made in the V3 to find the same identical sensations as the V2 but with yhe last upgrade not structural:

(centering (blend (- 1 trail_strength_feel) 0.450 0.500))

(force_scale (* 1.650 (/ 0.225 centering)))

(center_full (blend (min 1 (* lfb_slider 10)) 0.2 0.4))

(load_norm_wheel 250.0)

(x (* 10 (/ (min kmh 250) 400)))

Always at your disposal ... but let me help you if I can and if that's what you need!!!
Stakanov!!!

 

Yours is a logical request but it is almost impossible for me to simulate all the DDs, a lot depends on how the software and drivers of the steering wheels are set up and between different brands there are different starting points ... but if we assume the same setting starting, for DD steering wheels I could recommend to modify these parameters:
(tighten_range 0)
(tighten_falloff 0)
(damping 0.30) or 0.25
(rack_friction 0.15) or 0.20 or 0.25

then the rest of the parameters are almost all effects to be adjusted at will and usually to be lowered in the DD ... but even there personal pleasure plays a lot!!!

If it is difficult to understand what users are doing on a steering wheel similar to yours ... imagine a steering wheel that is not mine and with different starting characteristics!!

 

Give it another whirl... With one of those cars that were, not long ago, a bit iffy... But after thorough physics revisions are now pure simracing extacy. The 720s, and maybe the M6 in the same class, which never impressed me before, and understeered in a weird way, but is now fantastic too.
I think this the one, for the trusty t300...

 

Updated as of 12-26-22 for G920
93/10/25/1 (Damper is Damper)

ffb_custom_settings

 

Yes @Peter Stefani the Easter is the last with NO JOLT!!!