Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. tk84

    tk84 Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Ah nice, look forward to giving it a try this weekend
     
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  2. jimortality

    jimortality Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I've been running the v38 on my TSPC and that was feeling great! V40 didn't quite hit the mark for me but this v42 is the one lol! Slightly tighter feel for me than 38 which is how I like it now Danielson please stop there :D
     
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  3. Aza340

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    Thanks for the hard work, very much appreciated. Just wondering what you mean by "sliding is reduced"
    Thanks
     
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  4. Chip

    Chip Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    FFB feels off to me after most recent update: The speed scaling is too drastic with all profiles now it seems. At slow speeds, there is almost no resistance felt at the wheel, and then high speeds resistance picks up a lot. Anyone else notice this?
     
  5. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    I haven't tested the default+ ffb lately however, I find the (perceived?) increase in ffb dynamic range to be excellent when using the custom ffb profile. It feels more natural, and the upper range of resistance allows for a greater sense of grip-loss / adhesion near the limit. It may be as close to rF2 ffb as can be achieved, imo.

    Part of the reason the current ffb works well for me may be that I use a good amount of Friction (wheel driver setting) to establish a "baseline resistance" where the steering weight is already lending itself to a more natural result.

    Also, I use about 45% Damping (AMS2-ffb).
     
  6. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely no problems for me. Maybe you should delete the setup profiles and start again. Or maybe check your base settings
     
  7. sdubbin

    sdubbin New Member AMS2 Club Member

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    My Simucube felt the same , I deleted the setup folder and it is back to normal now
     
  8. Chip

    Chip Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks for the responses! I will delete the AMS2 folder and start anew. @Dean Ogurek @sdubbin, when you get a chance, would you both please share your full True Drive settings, AMS2 in-game settings, and the custom profile you are using? It would be great to have a starting point to work from. @Danielkart I can't recall which wheelbase you have, but if you have an SC2, I would love to know your True Drive settings and in-game settings as well (I believe I have your latest custom file already...unless you've updated and not posted yet).
     
  9. Danielkart

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    Hello Chip! No, I own a Fanatec dd1 and you can find my in-game and base settings right at the beginning of the custom file. You can find my custom on page 272. It will remain the V42 because it works excellently, I only react to updates or if Karsten will bring new physics again. I think Dean can certainly help you with the base settings because he also has a Simucube. Beautiful day
     
  10. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    See TD settings image attached.

    AMS2 ffb:
    • Gain: 60%
    • LFB: 0-5%
    • FX: to Preference
    • Damping: 45%
    Current Custom ffb version: by Stakanov - ATMOS 4.1 v1.3.2 (without yaw)
    I did make a couple of minor tweaks to this version, and I believe there is a newer version available from him, as well.
     

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  11. tk84

    tk84 Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Out of interest, whats the thinking behind the 1270 steering range in TD, I've always had mine set at 900, assumed that was the 'normal'
     
  12. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    Not sure tbh, just based on a recommendation and it seems to work fine. I suspect it may be suited to work better with the big "Trucks".
     
  13. MobileSchikane

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    Hello i was little while off ams2.
    What custom ffb for TS-PC is aktuell a good choice? I prefer the feeling like in rFactor 2.
     
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  14. inthebagbud

    inthebagbud Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Good evening @Danielkart - I'm intrigued what are these settings

    # Dynamic FFB:
    # Speed Sensitive: Enable
    # Speed Threshold: 220
    # Speed Threshold max: 340
    # Damper Effect Range: 90
    # Damper Effect Strength: 5
     
  15. José Llamas

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    Anyone with Fanatec DD1 wheel can contact me in private, please? Thank you!
     
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    Good evening! If you have a Fanatec base you can use Fanalab. These values can be set there if you wish. Regards
     
  17. GeekyDeaks

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    Hi all. Does anyone know how to get the default+ settings from the game? I tried setting the FFB to default+, then closing, removing the ffb_custom_settings.txt and restarting, but it didn't seem to have any effect. (I'm guessing it still dumped default).

    I like the overall feeling in default+, but I cannot get rid of the positive feedback at high speeds without crazy amounts of friction, however the one from @Danielkart works brilliantly in this regard on my setup with zero friction, so I'd like to mash the two to see if I can still maintain the weightiness of default+ without the oscillations.

    Also, does anyone have a link to a reference for the inputs to the script? It looks like lisp, so I think I can figure them out assuming that is correct, but it would be great to get a definitive list. I tried searching for a guide, but the hits I saw were all guides for the UI
     
  18. neal

    neal Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hiya Deaks,
    I'm sure this was brought up some time back and the basic answer was that it is not like a custom settings file and can't be used as such to base one on.
    Have you tried the ordinary default, i.e. not the plus version. I used to use the plus version until the big set of changes fairly recently but now the vanilla version is the dogs plums now. I don't know what your wheel is so I guess it may not work for you but I'd recommend you try the vanilla default as it far supersedes the plus version now.
     
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  19. MickT

    MickT Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    This is about the closest you'll get to a reference for the script. Lisp-like syntax with some inbuilt functions:
    (it's a link to an earlier post in this thread)
    Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations
     
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  20. GeekyDeaks

    GeekyDeaks Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Ah, good idea, at the very least that might get me much closer to what I want. Ta!

    EDIT: I'm using a simagic alpha mini, i.e. budget DD. It's got a really smooth frictionless action by default, which I think is part of the reason I'm experiencing positive feedback
     
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