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Automobilista 2 December 2021 Development Update

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - News & Announcements' started by Renato Simioni, Dec 31, 2021.

  1. Marius H

    Marius H Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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  2. CrimsonEminence

    CrimsonEminence Administrator Staff Member Reiza Backer

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    Removed some stuff, that generates unnecessary noise!
    Accurate.

    Likewise you should tone down your snarky manner of banging on always the exact same topics. It will not get stuff done more quickly and it's not helpful for anything related to the game.

    Enjoy the weekend guys!
     
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  3. Roar McRipHelmet

    Roar McRipHelmet Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    You made me jump there for a second, Crimson! I thought you quoted my runaway hungry cow theory as being "accurate" :confused:
     
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  4. Roy Niessink

    Roy Niessink Well-Known Member

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    Well, surely you could have quoted posts there from at least 2 other people, who reply to my apparently snarky comment in a likewise snarky reply, one even had the word snarky in his post, i genuinly thought a forum was to vent opinions,discuss them etc,etc.

    I guess any post related to a dev update,or game update are not welcome on this forum, since thats too repetitive, thats good to know.
     
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  5. CrimsonEminence

    CrimsonEminence Administrator Staff Member Reiza Backer

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    They're not forbidden at all. Just don't bang on it every day.

    The posts regarding Dev Update haven't even been removed...
     
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  6. Roy Niessink

    Roy Niessink Well-Known Member

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    I think my last post about it was several days ago, and considering Renato mentioned he needed to do a proofread and a little bit of work, which shouldnt take long according to him, we are almost a week later, which i dont think is strange to have people mention it or ask about it, if memory serves me well he apologized for the delay/lack of communication around the last update, again, i did not read back his post just now, so could be he used other wordings, but to me the irony is the apology for a lack of communication, then there is no communication for about a week ;)
     
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  7. Gevatter

    Gevatter The James May of Simracing Reiza Backer

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    Yes, on Thursday:
    Automobilista 2 V1.3.4.0 RELEASED!

    And before that, on Tuesday:
    Automobilista 2 V1.3.4.0 RELEASED!

    Adding today that makes three spererate snarky comments within 6 days about the dev log delay and the proofreading. Are you beginning to see why people get tired of your behaviour?
     
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  8. Roy Niessink

    Roy Niessink Well-Known Member

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    You call that snarky? I tried to put a sense of humour in there, i cant help it when people interpretate it differently, but then again, thats the problem with written text.
     
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  9. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Well-Known Member Staff Member Reiza Backer

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    I am not sure if the dev update is delayed due to Reiza putting the welfare of their team members caught in a war zone ahead of a communique, or if it would be better to confirm some licensing issues prior to release, or if other business issues have accumulated that need to be dealt with, you know, so Reiza actually exists in the future, or if Renato himself has some personal commitments mixed into the situation. What I do know is that any single one of these is plenty of justification to miss a deadline on a communique--that is ultimately pretty meaningless as it does not prevent us from playing the game now, nor will it guarantee any future state of the game after it is released. It's a communique, not a legal contract. Most likely several of these are in play all at the same time.

    Yes, Reiza sometimes shoots themselves in the foot by over-promising some things. They also have a years-long established history of over-delivering with additional free content added to DLC's, more free content added to the base game than initially promised, more features added to the game than initially promised, more sophisticated and accurate simulation than even the owners of the sim engine being utilized managed themselves, etc., that goes back to the original AMS.

    If you are someone who cares more about communiques than real substance, you are welcome to whinge here about it--all @CrimsonEminence has asked of us is to not do it repeatedly or with such a sense of entitlement that it ruins the environment here for all the rest of the people who care more about substance. Is that really so difficult?

    And it isn't about "one side" or "opinion" being favoured. It's just common courtesy to not waste everyone else's time and energy with repeated whinging about something so ridiculous.

    If @CrimsonEminence made up a thread "Who wishes the dev updates would come at precisely midnight on the first day of the month?", I think it's safe to assume two things would result:
    1. 100% of participants here (including me) would say, "yes, please," even knowing it is an unreasonable expectation--even for a giant mega-corporation.
    2. A small sub-set of people here would start banging on endlessly about how unfair it is that their time zone is not the one being utilized for the deadline.
    It's the "#2" type of scenarios that recur here and cause friction. Let's just drop those and get back to focusing on improving AMS 2. It is wonderful, but as acknowledged, has areas for improvement that will get improved faster and better with detailed and sophisticated feedback from the small proportion of more knowledgeable customers who hang-out here in the forum.
     
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  10. Mike1304

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    To be fair, the 3 times DEV update questions consumed only a fraction of the text in this forum than the plea-like reprimands here... :D;)
     
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  11. Dean Ogurek

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    Speaking of cow's, I wonder how Cheese production may be affected going forward . . .

    :eek::D
     
  12. Dolph

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    True. He is now entitled to at least 5 more snarky posts. Too bad Im gonna miss them all with him being on my ignore list. Ohh the bliss
     
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  13. CrimsonEminence

    CrimsonEminence Administrator Staff Member Reiza Backer

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    Update by the Lead dev

    Automobilista 2 V1.3.3.0 RELEASED - Now updated to V1.3.3.1


     
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    irony of the ironies as that is exactly what people are becoming with "just a proofread, very soon, before the update, before the weekend, coming soon" etc
     
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  15. CrimsonEminence

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    The first one? Not by itself. The first time it was funny to me, even over written text. I had the same thought actually.

    Repeating the same "joke" twice more over the following days made it lose the humor and now it sounds snarky and demanding since it obviously bothers you enough to comment on it again and again. Going "Oh, it was but a jest" doesn't work anymore at that point. The reaction by others could have been a clue to stop. And yes, your comments bothered me enough to comment on them myself now.

    But since we now have an update from Renato on the situation we can hopefully give it a rest and resume the overarching cheese discussion.
     
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  17. reptilexcq

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    Eww...I don't eat cheese.
     

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