Automobilista 2 V1.1.4.0 RELEASED - Now Updated to v1.1.4.5

Well, now I feel dumb. Not sure how I missed that!.

 

Hello,
First, you are doing a great job.
Now this one hurt a lot. That is sure. I hesitated for a long time to post here. I played Project Cars 2 on Xbox One and saw Automobilista 2 as great potential. And I still do.
Now it is clear that I am not welcome anymore and yes I have heard your warning.
I will log myself out and leave.
It is very weird that you don't see the merit of looking at footage and seeing what is wrong. I didn't know you had to be an astronaut to know that the Earth is not flat. Certainly, if you see behaviour that I have seen in Project Cars and was considered wrong then and still is considered wrong now.
I am still of the opinion that if I would play it that I wouldn't have another opinion (and that is not stubbornness) , maybe that is weird and maybe it is because I have been playing racing games my whole life. But it is so.
So you know. As critical as I am here the more I am rooting for you and the game on other forums and reaction on videos and trying others to try it.
If I was rich enough to buy a decent wheel and had the place to set it up and try it myself I would have done it ages ago. Because this is not a game to be played with a pad imo.
But yeah this has hurt a lot and I will not bother you or your team or anyone else here again.
I thought I was helping but it seems like you don't consider it valuable (and that is fair if you don't acknowledge that you can't see certain behaviour that is wrong from videos). I already only expressed what others were saying. And like I said that I rather not comment or show footage that I consider wrong and that others should show it. That way things are more clear for you guys. And I knew that I wouldn't convince anybody because I don't have the game.
So good luck with the game and I wish you all the luck in the world.
And to others who found my messages helpful and not degrading. Thank you and maybe see you in the future.
I wish you all great enjoyment and to the team take care in these difficult times. I hope everything will be ok in the future in your country and also in the world.

 

You should not take it personal.
BTW: By the game and a wheel if you gathered enough money and then come back and tell us what you feel about it.This would be more serious....

 

the realism discussion is odd and is there since racing games and ffb wheels exist.
games provide the forces just through the wheel, many players don't even own one and play with pads or keyboards (what is of course quite ok if they like to do so). to judge "realism", we would need to feel all forces of a racing car which act on driver's body. so, players would need to have at least a decent motion rig or the opportunity to test a game within a simulator real racing teams have at their bases. only a few enthusiasts have equipment like that, the majority of simracers just have wheels of different qualities and costs.
throughout the last decades, i had the chance to drive some racing cars in real life on different tracks. of course not on the limit, as the cars were just lent and i am not a race driver and did just a few careful laps each time, maybe pushing a bit on the straights.
some of these cars were/are also part of racing games. one sim does it better than the other, but it will never be "real" without professional equipment, just a try to come close.
some games simulate car A quite well, but fail in doing so with car B. there are ones that suck completely with each car, some others do quite well with almost all the cars.
to me, and this is again just an opinion, there are cars in AMS 2 which i have driven in real life coincidentally and i find some of them too "snappy" on corner exits. an example is the F3. in real life, they are no monsters that want to brake your hands after corners in slow speeds, they stick to the ground and are not too hard to handle. but in game, it likes to brake out quite easily on exits. but it might has to do with too strong ffb settings and the fact that i can feel forces just through my wheel, without having the complete feedback of street and car and being surprised by the reaction of the car to my steering inputs quite often.

edit: have to step back on the F3's. have not driven them for quite a while. feel pretty good now to me. maybe due to some changes on physics/ffb in one of the latest builds.

 

The design of the engine has been discredited, not the designation. Hence why none have been produced in the last half century.

And great info from the Germans (of course ) to refine the difference between flat and "boxer." Again, reinforces the point why everyday (or marketing) labels do not always precisely match the technical specs. The end of automotive technical civilization ended for me when certain mainstream German manufacturers stopped using accurate engine size designations on their models After that, it's marketing over engineering!

 

Split Second, maybe it's possible for you to create a new "My impressions of AMS2 as a non-player" thread in the General Discussions forum? I do find your viewpoints interesting to discuss, just that the way they are currently written and shared with us in release threeads is not specifically relevant to changes between v1.1.3.5 and v1.1.4.0

With a thread topic like that, you also don't give any good reason for people to dismiss you based on your non-player status, as we can all discuss your observations imagining ourselves to be in your situation.

 

EDIT ...won't push the topic further.

 

I'm often critical of AMS2 but I would like to commend however is working on the differential as it now has a quite major factor in the handling of the cars I have tried and is another useful setting to setup the car to your liking.

 

Early on in my apprenticeship I learnrd the old suck, sqeeze, bang, blow method and never had a bad night out..... No, never been to St Kilda sorry that wasn't me, you'll have to keep looking for your old flame

 

I was just looking for a 10 inch population tool my boss asked me to find weird, because people here only had 6 or 7's

 

It needs lots of revs, most all the time.
As In video at Nords from the Retro Thread, below and other info on BT 46b and all retros

Formula-Retro drivability Nords
#584 Kayalami

 

I agree. I notice this when driving some of the Formula cars. It's like a very subtle stability control turned on, although this driving aid is completely disabled in the game settings.

 

It's been there since day one, I've reported it very early on and mentioned it numerous times. I'm glad finally others are talking about it.