Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Hey!
I drive with about 12Nm with a 32cm diameter wheel. You drive with 10Nm and a wheel (GT Neo) with a diameter of 30cm. Of course there are differences here.
Yes, you can increase the "inertia" on your base for your lighter and smaller wheel to simulate a heavier wheel, maybe 10 or 15 depending on your taste. As I said to "GoobMB" you can also increase (master_rack 0.7 ) in the file, maybe increase it to 0.8 or 0.9 for your 10Nm base. If you want more resistance at higher speed you can increase the value (velocity_res_scale 0.6). I wouldn't set the FX higher than your 25 on your Simagic Mini, otherwise the wheel could swing and clipping. For the curbs you can try to smooth less, i.e. reduce the value ( micro_bumps_smooth) to maybe 0.005 . Maybe this will help you a little, it's very difficult to give tips because every user has completely different priorities. And just as important as the file itself are the in-game settings and the base settings and the hardware you own

 

I just tried this file in the beta in the older F1 cars around Kansai GP and I’ve been getting an issue. When I turn through the esses. It seems to me that the effect of tyres gaining grip after losing it is too powerful so you easily lose the car. It feels very erratic

 

Thanks, I'll take a look at it as soon as possible, I'm away from the PC for a couple of days!!
Can you check if with the same settings and the same machines you have the same defect only by switching to the Reiza Default+ profile??
Which cars exactly, the retro ones. the classics?? ... Thank you again

 

It was with the classic G1 and G2, Retro G1 and G2. I will check with default+ tomorrow, but I remember having a similar experience in the F-U G1 around Azure. I had max DF and tried to turn quickly at the top of the hill. The front gripped up heavily and I hit the wall. I had a similar experience with the default+, but the custom file amplified it

 

Thank you for your insights, I was indeed explaining what effect I would like to have and how I can personalize your file to my needs in the way I can achieve what I need , there are other parameters to consider for high speed, high g corners, curbs?

 

Wow, thanks my friends.
Your file is amazing, I love it. I was wrong to set up the Fanatec panel; I used to set the EIF too high (now I keep it at 60/70).
Thanks for the work you are doing.

 

@Stakanov I also noticed the same attitude in Kansai at the exit of the S, with the Auto F Classic Gen 1 and Gen 2 (then i think the retro too) ... I improved a lot by modifying these two values relating to acceleration and with level the gain 1-2 step

(accel_feel 0.75)
(accel_feel_follow_weight 0.25)

Little by little we are fixing everything, we have a lot to adjust aspect by aspect, thanks to @Racinglegend1234

 

@Rintintin78 I also like the start but the difficult part begins now because we need to make it pleasant in a neutral way for as many people as possible and there are many things to adjust and level ... and as you can see, a value can be modified to change everything... when I am told that an aspect needs to be improved there may be something behind it infinite different reasons that I'm not aware of... but little by little we'll get there.

Ok thanks for the work in my absence, I'll take note

 

@Stakanov very clear and illuminating... but if the smoothing filter is a temporal update filter of the data, then eliminate the values below a certain timing and therefore smoothes the functions regardless of its values, what are the others functions that influence the values of the variable quantitatively and not temporally?

Mine is just curiosity and I'm a little fascinated, I hope I don't disturb you!!

 

For example, two quantitative and non-temporal functions are the hard_clip function and the soft_clip function.
The first clearly cuts the maximum (or peak) value that a function or variable can have (red line in the photo), the operator inserts the cutting limit and the hard_clip function does not make the result go beyond, which in fact always remains at the maximum until the value or result is higher.The pro or advantage of this function is that it leaves everything below the limit unchanged and therefore faithful to the original, but on the other hand it will always remain at the maximum value in all values positioned above the cut.
The second function, however, may seem similar to the first but implies big differences.It does not implement a clean cut but readjusts the entire curve so that the maximum is the one indicated by the operator (yellow line in the photo), therefore it has the advantage of not flattening out on the established maximum, but has the disadvantage of deforming a little the entire curve, including the underlying one, so that the maximum is the established one.

This image helps but doesn't show the deformation I'm referring to... I'll see if I can find another photo....



EDIT: Maybe here you can understand it better... I hope.

 

Hi,
in your file this function is (output (hard_clip output 1.0))?
Thanks

 

Yes but is present in all original karsten's files and in the derivates or mods from me and others users that have this function at the end in the output for limit him
(output (hard_clip output 1.0))

Many others example are present....
(FL_sl_lat (hard_clip FL_sl_lat 1.0))
(FR_sl_lat (hard_clip FR_sl_lat 1.0))
(RL_sl_lat (hard_clip RL_sl_lat 1.0))
(RR_sl_lat (hard_clip RR_sl_lat 1.0))
(sa_delta_rack (hard_clip sa_delta_rack delta_sa_max))
(sa_delta_l (hard_clip sa_delta_l delta_sa_max))
(sa_delta_r (hard_clip sa_delta_r delta_sa_max))
(steer_pull (hard_clip (* steer_spring_strength steer_delta 0.25) 0.5))
(want_steer (- want_steer (- steer_delta (hard_clip steer_delta (* 0.15 (max 0 (- (/ 1 (max kmh 2)) 0.05)))))))
(texture (hard_clip texture 0.06))

As you can see, the maximum ceiling for the clip can be a fixed value, another variable, a function or even a calculation expression and it is used a lot because it does not distort the values below the desired limit ... in fact we do not have or rarely have them present soft_clip

 

Hi where i can find recent custom ffb files?

 

@Stakanov sorry for my English,
how should I set these parameters in the game with Fanatec CS DD 12nm:
GAIN
LOW FORCE BOOST
FX
DAMPING
thanks

 

For “all” of the custom FFB files in one download, go here:

Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Note: Updated to include Daniel's revised V4000 file & Stakanov's updated 3-file ATMOS series. (see following posts).

For a list of the same files, but with links to each file individually, go here:

Your Custom FFB File Collection

The first post gets you all the files in one place; the second thread can help you locate any additional, pertinent information posted by the authors that may help with tuning.

 

Hey guys!
The custom file V4000 on page 413 has been updated. Have a nice weekend

 

What did you change if I may ask?

 

The tire resistance value was a little too low. I increased it to achieve, among other things, more firmness in the middle and a better center feel. I also increased the "main volume control" for the rack and street scale a little. Everything together gives more punch in the feel

 

I was actually using your original v4000 with an incresed value on speed resistance scale with great satisfaction. To use this I just need to re-download it?

 

Yes you can download it and customize it to your taste if you don't like it. Or you can stick with your customized file according to your wishes